are they "administratively separating" everyone who DOR's or NPQ's now? before it was just OCS people at risk but ... ?
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Fallen Angels - Admin Seps for all?
- Thread starter scottwith1t
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I got the impression that it's all case by case. I have two friends that are academy grads that were NPQed, one's getting admin-sepd, the other (who was anthro'ed out of pilot) is being offered NFO if she wants it, and if not, is being encouraged to submit a package for her preferred community.
Amazing what decisions the new FY brings. No more redneck parasail, if you suck you're out, whats next, the geedunk being run by civilians?
Back in the 04-05 timeframe you had to have a 90 percent plus average to pass API as an SNA. It was a rolling average to consistently attrite the bottom X percent. Why? Increase the attrition rate for pilots because they let too many SNAs in the door. Message traffic said if they failed to get the requisite number in API, they would raise the minimum NSS in Primary. If it still didn't work, in Advanced.
That same timeframe (Early '04-mid '06), you were pretty much screwed if you attrited for any reason. They basically said "thanks for your service" and gave you a few months to find a job and separate. I knew a girl in API who went to Annapolis, got down to P-cola, and found out she was in fact anthroed out of everything. Bye bye. Shoulda put SWO down for selection, I guess.
It's all in the manning. If other communities are full, they have nowhere to stick you. And GENAV is a holding bin, not a career path.
That same timeframe (Early '04-mid '06), you were pretty much screwed if you attrited for any reason. They basically said "thanks for your service" and gave you a few months to find a job and separate. I knew a girl in API who went to Annapolis, got down to P-cola, and found out she was in fact anthroed out of everything. Bye bye. Shoulda put SWO down for selection, I guess.
It's all in the manning. If other communities are full, they have nowhere to stick you. And GENAV is a holding bin, not a career path.
not only just "if you suck" anymore, its NPQ's as well.
I remember hearing about general aviation in A-pool, but never asked about it since they more or less scared everyone about it (maybe as motivation to study/work hard, or not just DOR). Anyone know what kinda work is actually involved?
As a genav, you get jobs like, CVN Fuels Officer. Measure, track & store all JP onboard. Plenty of other fun jobs avail too. Just do a search for shitty jobs on a carrier.
GENAV is "aviation jobs no aviator would touch with a ten-foot honey pot stick". Fuels officer and ATO are perennial favorites.
Believe me, you'd rather go flip burgers than suck up that hate. So study!
There's a minimum NSS? When I was going through flight school (same time frame) I didn't see one guy or gal attrited for low NSS, to include at least one 22.
Case by case basis. I was on my IA with a flight attrite LTJG. He picked up SWO while he was in the sandbox and headed to his ship after the IA.
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At least on the jet side, 35 was the minimum without a waiver from the Commodore for Navy types or HQMC for Marines. I knew of one Marine who never failed a flight, qualled at the boat, but was attrited when it became a mathematical impossibility for him to raise his NSS to a 35+. Apparently the Marine Corps just about never gives that waiver.