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F4 Crashes into Concrete Wall

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JIMC5499

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heyjoe said:
There is one guy who is a former policeman who is so sure of conspiracy that he grabs at all straws...even to point of accusing Navy of downing it with a missile from an Aegis cruiser...like you could shut up several hundred sailors, all armed with email.

Jim Sanders, now an investigative journalist and former police officer went so far to publish a book on his suppositions in April 1997, The Downing of TWA Flight 800, (by James Sanders)

He claims to have independently researched the case and have supporting evidence that an AEGIS cruiser fired a missile during a test that inadvertantly locked onto to TWA Flight 800 on July 17, 1996. He also believes that government officials discovered the truth ordered it covered up. His summary of evidence:


- Navy testing of AEGIS cruiser with drone launch and missile firing in the restricted area where Flight 800 was lost
- A pattern of reddish-orange residue on the passenger seats where he says the missile impacted the aircraft
- Large bullet-like entrance and exit 'wound' in the fuselage indicating a missile
- Original FAA radar report that indicated an unidentified object approaching TWA 800 (FBI tried to suppress this info supposedly)
- 34 independent eye-witnesses to some sort of 'flare in the sky'

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The book is at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0821758292/103-2680019-5634248?v=glance&n=283155


Some of the reviews are pretty scary...especially when you consider that if they are Americans and of age, they get get to vote and their votes count as much as yours and mine.
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I think he might have read this book and is having flashbacks.

http://www.twbookmark.com/books/97/1570426090/index.html
 
Flash

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heyjoe said:
There is one guy who is a former policeman who is so sure of conspiracy that he grabs at all straws...even to point of accusing Navy of downing it with a missile from an Aegis cruiser...like you could shut up several hundred sailors, all armed with email.

Jim Sanders, now an investigative journalist and former police officer went so far to publish a book on his suppositions in April 1997, The Downing of TWA Flight 800, (by James Sanders)

He claims to have independently researched the case and have supporting evidence that an AEGIS cruiser fired a missile during a test that inadvertantly locked onto to TWA Flight 800 on July 17, 1996. He also believes that government officials discovered the truth ordered it covered up. His summary of evidence:


- Navy testing of AEGIS cruiser with drone launch and missile firing in the restricted area where Flight 800 was lost
- A pattern of reddish-orange residue on the passenger seats where he says the missile impacted the aircraft
- Large bullet-like entrance and exit 'wound' in the fuselage indicating a missile
- Original FAA radar report that indicated an unidentified object approaching TWA 800 (FBI tried to suppress this info supposedly)
- 34 independent eye-witnesses to some sort of 'flare in the sky'

Some of the reviews are pretty scary...especially when you consider that if they are Americans and of age, they get get to vote and their votes count as much as yours and mine.
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Did anyone ever see the computer simulation, done by the CIA of all organizations (at the request of the NTSB, I think?), that sjows what they think happened to the airplane after the explosion. It was one of the most chilling things I have ever seen :eek:. Basically, it showed that they think the explosion blew off the nose of the plane and then it went into a steep climb before stalling out and spinning in, breaking up into several large peices on the way down. Like the Challenger, apparently some people were fully concious for some time after the intial explosion.

A4s, please correct me if I am wrong on the above, I saw it in a PBS or Discovery program. Any more info on that?
 
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Flash said:
Did anyone ever see the computer simulation, done by the CIA of all organizations (at the request of the NTSB, I think?), that sjows what they think happened to the airplane after the explosion.
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There's a link to it about half way down this page

http://www.cnn.com/US/9711/18/twa.fbi.presser/index.html

I recall it being longer though and showing the actual climb, stall, spin and breakup of the 747. Perhaps CNN's in on the conspiracy :eek:

No, not really. I never suspect a conspiracy when incompetence will do.
 
J

JIMC5499

ex-Mech
Flash said:
Did anyone ever see the computer simulation, done by the CIA of all organizations (at the request of the NTSB, I think?), that sjows what they think happened to the airplane after the explosion. It was one of the most chilling things I have ever seen :eek:. Basically, it showed that they think the explosion blew off the nose of the plane and then it went into a steep climb before stalling out and spinning in, breaking up into several large peices on the way down. Like the Challenger, apparently some people were fully concious for some time after the intial explosion.

A4s, please correct me if I am wrong on the above, I saw it in a PBS or Discovery program. Any more info on that?
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I don't buy into the missile bit, but everytime I think of TWA 800 and the reason given for it's crash I can't help but think about that episode of Mythbusters with the cell phone at the gas station. Look at all of the problems that they had in generating a spark that would ignite gasoline vapors. Now I'm supposed to believe that a spark inside a fuel cell ignited jet fuel vapors?
 
Brett327

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JIMC5499 said:
I don't buy into the missile bit, but everytime I think of TWA 800 and the reason given for it's crash I can't help but think about that episode of Mythbusters with the cell phone at the gas station. Look at all of the problems that they had in generating a spark that would ignite gasoline vapors. Now I'm supposed to believe that a spark inside a fuel cell ignited jet fuel vapors?
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Have you seen the NTSB test on an actual 747 center fuel tank? Pretty convincing.

Brett
 
A4sForever

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Brett327 said:
Have you seen the NTSB test on an actual 747 center fuel tank? Pretty convincing.

Brett
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The NTSB is/was part of the "problem". My conclusion ... it wasn't the center fuel tank pumps or the associated wiring ... ain't no way --- EOD (i.e., end of discussion -- for me). :)
 
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