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Europe under extreme duress
- Thread starter Randy Daytona
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Look technically the Earth is an oblate spheroid not a sphere, and it changes shape under a series of dynamic inputs both internal and external.
No line is ever truly drawn that isn’t wrong in the sense it remains static on a map, it’s self a 2D representation of spaces our 30 meter monkey brain was never ment to account for.
No line is ever truly drawn that isn’t wrong in the sense it remains static on a map, it’s self a 2D representation of spaces our 30 meter monkey brain was never ment to account for.
I hope that’s a tongue in cheek comment about hemispheres and not about where Ukraine’s border with Russia should be.
Yeah to the original point. There are no “hemispheres” because the Earth is never actually a sphere.
I mean if you want to apply it to that given scenario, we could outline the absurdity it is to expend 18k casualties and produce a <1% exchange of territory (current exchange is 83 casualties per square KM). The physical change of the Earth completely negates the last year through natural ebb and flow. Effectively they’ve seized rubble where it is currently found not actual positon.
That wasn’t the point I was originally making but putting it that way, what a depressingly stupid expenditure of combat power to achieve a total of nothing in some narcissistic quest for Imperial stature you won’t ever get to anyway.
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You said it. I might have to borrow some of this.
Wonder how those numbers compare to the trench warfare of WW1, in particular Somme and Verdun. To go further, have drones made the defense (at the present time) much stronger than the offense, similar to what machine guns and barbwire did in 1914?
As for a narcissist quest, is there anything unique - in the context of a millennium of Russian history dating back to Kievan Rus - that Putin is doing? And if the action is repeated over the centuries, there must be a national security reason behind it such as: access to a port, expanding to a defensive barrier rather than an open plain, fertile lands for foodstuffs - in other words, history.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Don't overlook Ukraine's ability to neutralize Russia's air power and armor with the assistance of several other nations' traditional weaponry, which are critical requirements to maneuver warfare. Also don't overlook Russia's piss poor application of coordinating joint maneuver, C5I, and fires.
The entire Russian warplan looked like Crimea... and they grossly misjudged the local population's willingness to become part of the motherland.
Yes, Ukraine is using drones. No, they're not the only reason why Russia can't effectively conduct maneuver warfare and they're not single-handedly going to turn 21st century modern warfare back into WWI.
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I’d say it is more like the end phases of the Korean War where combatants were exchanging tremendous firepower for a hill top only to be pushed off, only to take it again. I believe that drones don’t necessarily favor offense or defense in this particular war rather they force a dispersion of forces the Russians can’t cope with while forcing a kind of system of “protologistics” on the Ukraine where important weapon systems, like drones, are manufactured in barns and basements then moved incrementally to the front, while more conventional weapon systems are brought in from NATO thereby leaving Russia without a primary industrial base to strike.
Putin isn’t really doing anything unique, he wants to be a new-age mix of Peter the Great and Catherine fighting the Great Northern War, reclaiming that Baltic buffer, but, weighed down with Cold War baggage, he lacks their ability to build a coalition (anti-Swedish in the case of Peter and Catherine) and finds himself without allies.