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E-6's Anyone

Rubiks06

Registered User
pilot
I used the search function to no avail. Does anyone have anything usefull about the E-6 community? Deployment cycle, Career path, advancement oppurtunity.
 

Rubiks06

Registered User
pilot
whats the standard career path for an e-6 type....how much flying am i really going to be doing. As a 3p would i really get to fly all that much or would i be getting coffee...staying out of the way...
 

Intruder Driver

All Weather Attack
pilot
Can anybody give any insight into how competitive the selection is for TACAMO?

Just out of curiosity, if an SNA's desire is to fly the E-6, why didn't they join the Air Force or take a pro pilot course at Embry Riddle? For me, part of the pride of being a Navy pilot was to earn my anchor via my tailhook, not to have to explain to my kids, grandkids, friends, colleagues that, yes, while technically I was a Navy pilot, I was one who essentially flew an airliner.

Frankly, if I was a primary instructor and found out that some stud had no desire to launch off the pointy end of an aircraft carrier or land on a pitching small boy but wanted to fly an airliner, I'd have serious reservations about their motivation.
 

IrishNavy05

Registered User
pilot
Contributor
Just out of curiosity, if an SNA's desire is to fly the E-6, why didn't they join the Air Force or take a pro pilot course at Embry Riddle?
Frankly, if I was a primary instructor and found out that some stud had no desire to launch off the pointy end of an aircraft carrier or land on a pitching small boy but wanted to fly an airliner, I'd have serious reservations about their motivation.

Some people get told by the Navy that they won't fit in an aircraft that flies off the pointy end of an aircraft carrier.
 

Rubiks06

Registered User
pilot
Just out of curiosity, if an SNA's desire is to fly the E-6, why didn't they join the Air Force or take a pro pilot course at Embry Riddle? For me, part of the pride of being a Navy pilot was to earn my anchor via my tailhook, not to have to explain to my kids, grandkids, friends, colleagues that, yes, while technically I was a Navy pilot, I was one who essentially flew an airliner.

Frankly, if I was a primary instructor and found out that some stud had no desire to launch off the pointy end of an aircraft carrier or land on a pitching small boy but wanted to fly an airliner, I'd have serious reservations about their motivation.

Have your reservations, some of us wanted nothing more than to fly off the pointy end of the ship. Being .1 of an inch to tall for a single plane (t-45) has made it so going to the boat is impossible for me. So P-3, E-6 or Helos. I can be a Naval Aviator......life deals the cards we play the hand. I dont feel that makes me any less motivated, and i think that knowing everything about all of your options is the best way to go. Besides, who cares what you fly, in the end everyones wings look the same and what I fly will not dictate the kind of officer I am. Im here to lead...flying planes comes second to that. Just my take on it.
 

Intruder Driver

All Weather Attack
pilot
Please don't take my comments as a slam to anyone not flying a plane with a tailhook. I had two very close friends in flight school whose size negated ejection seat aircraft (one too tall, one too short). One went P-3's and the other wound up in a 28 year career of C-12's and T-39's. I understand this completely, and in fact it saddens me that such small measurements can derail someone's desires.

My point was directed to the SNA that comes in, assuming they are qualified in all other respects, with a goal of flying an airliner, whether it is the E-6, C-9 or whatever. As a former advanced strike instructor, we had a few that put C-9's East/C-9's West as their first and second choices on their dream sheet. As the Ops O, I struggled with their motivation to do such a thing. Typically, they were sent to a VC squadron or to VAQ-33 to fly whales (EA-3's), because we didn't want to waste a tactical seat on someone who didn't want to be there.

In no way am I intending to begrudge anyone who has been winged their anchor, or to imply it isn't made of gold, the same as mine. Naval Aviation is a great fraternity to be a part of. I guess my frustration is seeing the posts of so many aspiring Navy pilots on AW, much as I've seen in high schools and colleges in communities nationwide throughout my career, who will do anything to be a part of the fraternity but who won't get the chance or opportunity. I'd hate to think their slot was filled by someone who didn't want to be a warrior flying off the pointy end.
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
Just out of curiosity, if an SNA's desire is to fly the E-6, why didn't they join the Air Force or take a pro pilot course at Embry Riddle? For me, part of the pride of being a Navy pilot was to earn my anchor via my tailhook, not to have to explain to my kids, grandkids, friends, colleagues that, yes, while technically I was a Navy pilot, I was one who essentially flew an airliner.

I have no problem with your viewpoint. Flying off the boat is just not the lifestyle that I chose. While being a "Navy airline" pilot was not all that exciting, it did have it's perks, which included many cold beverages and being able to see my kids in their formative years due to shorter deployments.

Frankly, if I was a primary instructor and found out that some stud had no desire to launch off the pointy end of an aircraft carrier or land on a pitching small boy but wanted to fly an airliner, I'd have serious reservations about their motivation.

I am a primary instructor, and I piss motivation.

Besides, Air Force pilots are fags.

As Ron Burgandy says "agree to disagree" or "when in Rome".

Take your choice, Intruder Driver.
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
In no way am I intending to begrudge anyone who has been winged their anchor, or to imply it isn't made of gold, the same as mine. Naval Aviation is a great fraternity to be a part of. I guess my frustration is seeing the posts of so many aspiring Navy pilots on AW, much as I've seen in high schools and colleges in communities nationwide throughout my career, who will do anything to be a part of the fraternity but who won't get the chance or opportunity. I'd hate to think their slot was filled by someone who didn't want to be a warrior flying off the pointy end.

Sorry, we posted at the same time! Times are changing. The single "I want jets" demographic that was there in earlier times has been replaced. Just a ballpark guess, but I would say that 70% of SNAs are now married, some with kids, and those who want tacair are in the slight minority. Just different times, I guess.
 

mules83

getting salty...
pilot
In my primary class, im the only Navy guy who wants to put jets as their first choice. As e6bflyer said, most of the guys here are married. They bought a house hoping to be in one place for over a year (api+primary+advanced).
 

CUFocker

Registered User
Priorities

I wanted to fly hornets. I was qualified, got the NSS for it, and selected E-6s intentionally. I've wanted Tac-Air since I was in 7th grade. Then I got married. I kind of thought of it this way: flying will be a (big picture) short-term job and long term hobby. Being married will be lifetime servitude. Might as well be good as I can at the one thing that's chained to your timeline... Would I like to catch a few traps? Hell yes. And I would do it in a heartbeat if I could deploy for two weeks and be back for three... But that ain't the way it is and my priorities are set on the family. Nothing to do with motivation for the job or wanting to put warheads to foreheads.
 

Chubby

Active Member
I wanted to fly hornets. I was qualified, got the NSS for it, and selected E-6s intentionally. I've wanted Tac-Air since I was in 7th grade. Then I got married. I kind of thought of it this way: flying will be a (big picture) short-term job and long term hobby. Being married will be lifetime servitude. Might as well be good as I can at the one thing that's chained to your timeline... Would I like to catch a few traps? Hell yes. And I would do it in a heartbeat if I could deploy for two weeks and be back for three... But that ain't the way it is and my priorities are set on the family. Nothing to do with motivation for the job or wanting to put warheads to foreheads.

Moral of the story ... women are the devil.
 
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