For any E-2 nfo's, I have three questions for you that I don't understand. I know that once your done with intermediate at VT-10 or VT-4, you head off to Norfolk to VAW-120 and the jet guys stay in Pensacola for VT-86. Is VAW-120 the only training squadron for you guys and is this the rag, because that is what it seems like to me. If it is the rag, do you get winged before or after VAW-120? Also, how long is the training at this squadron? Thanks for any help because I'm thinking about selecting for E-2's, but I just don't understand those few things.
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E-2 pipeline for NFO's
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MasterBates
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VAW-120 is the C2/E2 RAG, and also E2 NFO's wing there.
As to the timing and length of training, one of the Tube Rats would be a better source of info...
As to the timing and length of training, one of the Tube Rats would be a better source of info...
1. Yes, you'll leave after I-grad at VT-4/VT-10 (I assume everyone does D-JET now or that it was just made part of the training track for all due to the T-6).
2. 120 is the only E-2 training squadron. And yes, we put up with our share of C-2 guys; but I'm pretty sure it's an affirmative action thing or something.
3. NFOs get winged at 120, about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through (after you get your certification as an air intercept controller). When I went through in 99-00, it was about 16 months or so. May be a little shorter now, but a lot of it depends on aircraft availability.
It's a ton of fun; but there's a lot of academics, so be ready. The days of multiple choice are over, so be expected to know, list, describe, explain, etc. This applies to systems and tactics. Hope this helps, and good luck!
And yes, we put up with our share of C-2 guys; but I'm pretty sure it's an affirmative action thing or something.
As evidenced by Masterbates selection for C-2s.
Brett
MasterBates
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Actually, I am just a pipeline select. I could end up in E2's.. But I am doing all in my power to get C2's.
Both are an improvement, and I will enjoy flying either.
But, I want my $10,000 per diem patch.
Both are an improvement, and I will enjoy flying either.
But, I want my $10,000 per diem patch.
Ideally, an NFO spends 54 weeks at VAW-120 before going out to the fleet. Right now, however, you can tack on another month to that. So figure you'll be there for 13 to 14 months.
Basically goes like this...
Check in...sit around for a while.
Class up and learn systems.
Finish systems and learn NCIs and AICs.
Do your winging flights (2) at around the 6 to 7 month mark.
Learn Links, tactics, intel, the way of the jedi, etc.
Go the fleet and forget 90% of what you learned....just kidding. Seriously, though, why did I ever learn the strokes per minute of the windshield wipers?
...and here's one more bit of gouge...
If you never got sick in the T-6 or T-1, great. Lots of people get sick at first in the E-2. I never had an issue down in P-cola, but I have gotten sick in the tube (once with results and once I would have had results if we had done one more damn touch and go).
Basically goes like this...
Check in...sit around for a while.
Class up and learn systems.
Finish systems and learn NCIs and AICs.
Do your winging flights (2) at around the 6 to 7 month mark.
Learn Links, tactics, intel, the way of the jedi, etc.
Go the fleet and forget 90% of what you learned....just kidding. Seriously, though, why did I ever learn the strokes per minute of the windshield wipers?
...and here's one more bit of gouge...
If you never got sick in the T-6 or T-1, great. Lots of people get sick at first in the E-2. I never had an issue down in P-cola, but I have gotten sick in the tube (once with results and once I would have had results if we had done one more damn touch and go).
MasterBates
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MasterBates
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In all seriousness, why do guys get sick in the back of the E-2, while AW's in helos (no horizion reference or flight instruments) almost never get sick?
Is it the sitting sideways?
Is it the sitting sideways?
What do you mean, no horizon reference? What do you think that huge window is for?
Brett