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ATIS

Well-Known Member
If I was to choose anything I wanted to do it was most likely be Intel or something in the aviation area. Just trying to see if it is a wise choice to apply if my degree had nothing to do with these jobs. But I would want to take the chance because the worst they can say is no.
Still didn't answer the question IMO. Why Intel or aviation? You seem to be chasing butterflies when it comes to your degree and GPA. Forget that.

Being an Officer in the Navy is about leading people and a mission....be that in whatever capacity you end up in. I have yet to read or hear that in any of your replies which might puts me in the midset that you want a commission for the sake of a commission and being called an Officer. That of course is my opinion.

ATIS
 

Sandcrab01

New Member
Still didn't answer the question IMO. Why Intel or aviation? You seem to be chasing butterflies when it comes to your degree and GPA. Forget that.

Being an Officer in the Navy is about leading people and a mission....be that in whatever capacity you end up in. I have yet to read or hear that in any of your replies which might puts me in the midset that you want a commission for the sake of a commission and being called an Officer. That of course is my opinion.

ATIS
My apologies for not being more detailed.

My main reason for wanting to do aviation is because I always admired aircraft and what they are capable of doing. The reason I wanted to be an officer in doing this job because accomplishing mission after mission is something I feel I would excel in. With me playing sports all the way throughout college, I proven I was a great leader to my teammates and thought my leadership skills would follow me to lead in the Navy.

I believe what I'm trying to say is that I would enjoy doing these main jobs I listed as well as any other because I know it all plays a part in helping the Navy run and complete missions.
 

RecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Would you say that AMDO would be in reach with the GPA that I have? or only the options that you listed.
AMDO is primarily an enlisted an officer program. The community highly prefers to take applicants from within. I’ve never seen a civilian applicant get selected.
 

ea6bflyr

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My apologies for not being more detailed.

My main reason for wanting to do aviation is because I always admired aircraft and what they are capable of doing. The reason I wanted to be an officer in doing this job because accomplishing mission after mission is something I feel I would excel in. With me playing sports all the way throughout college, I proven I was a great leader to my teammates and thought my leadership skills would follow me to lead in the Navy.

I believe what I'm trying to say is that I would enjoy doing these main jobs I listed as well as any other because I know it all plays a part in helping the Navy run and complete missions.
The reason we ask is because at some point you will need to write a motivation statement as why you want to serve in the Navy and why you want XXXX designator. The quicker you come to the why, then the easier it will be to write down those motivations. There's an entire sub-thread on motivation letters.

Others have said it. You need to visit/sit down with the OR and start the process which will include taking the ASTB (APEX). That gouge (info) is also located in a sub-thread called ASTB. Lots of good advice from those that successfully conquered the test. The key is to STUDY, then take it. DO NOT GO IN COLD as you only have 3 chances to take the test and it may delay your kit/application.

Good luck.
 

Sandcrab01

New Member
AMDO is primarily an enlisted an officer program. The community highly prefers to take applicants from within. I’ve never seen a civilian applicant get selected.
That is crucial information. Thank you very much. I can focus on other designators now.
 

Sandcrab01

New Member
The reason we ask is because at some point you will need to write a motivation statement as why you want to serve in the Navy and why you want XXXX designator. The quicker you come to the why, then the easier it will be to write down those motivations. There's an entire sub-thread on motivation letters.

Others have said it. You need to visit/sit down with the OR and start the process which will include taking the ASTB (APEX). That gouge (info) is also located in a sub-thread called ASTB. Lots of good advice from those that successfully conquered the test. The key is to STUDY, then take it. DO NOT GO IN COLD as you only have 3 chances to take the test and it may delay your kit/application.

Good luck.
I do agree on focusing on the why. I do have the mindset of I willing to excel at any designator, not sure if that will hurt or help me. But, focusing on my main designators I would like to apply for, The why comes with wanting to serve and believing I would be an exceptional leader in any area.
 

Sculpin

Well-Known Member
Which options would you say are more feasible? With my GPA being a concern, I wanted to do my research on designators I have a shot in being accepted to.
Rufio gave you a good idea of what you have a shot at right now, and also suggested making a plan with your OR. It is sound advice.

I did want to pursue a masters degree, but with the age limit I wanted to commission as soon as possible.
I do have my preferences which includes Supply, AMDO or Intel. I just didn't know if it would be worth applying to these designators if I wouldn't have a chance.
If you apply and start a Master's program in the Fall (assuming the colleges you're looking at are still taking applications for the Fall term), and finish in 1-1.5 years, you'll be about 25, right? The age limit is 42 for Intel and 29 for Supply at the time of commissioning to my understanding.
 

Pags

Well-Known Member
pilot
My apologies for not being more detailed.

My main reason for wanting to do aviation is because I always admired aircraft and what they are capable of doing. The reason I wanted to be an officer in doing this job because accomplishing mission after mission is something I feel I would excel in. With me playing sports all the way throughout college, I proven I was a great leader to my teammates and thought my leadership skills would follow me to lead in the Navy.

I believe what I'm trying to say is that I would enjoy doing these main jobs I listed as well as any other because I know it all plays a part in helping the Navy run and complete missions.
So why AMDO over Aviator or NFO? Do you understand the difference between URL, RL, and Staff Corps? If you want to lead you're far better off going in to URL as opposed to a specialty field with more stringent requirements such as supply, cyber/IWC, or Intel. If you don't care about a designator than just why not shoot for any URL job such as pilot, SWO, or subs. Or look at another service such as USMC or USA that would also offer you an opportunity to lead.
 
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Sandcrab01

New Member
Rufio gave you a good idea of what you have a shot at right now, and also suggested making a plan with your OR. It is sound advice.




If you apply and start a Master's program in the Fall (assuming the colleges you're looking at are still taking applications for the Fall term), and finish in 1-1.5 years, you'll be about 25, right? The age limit is 42 for Intel and 29 for Supply at the time of commissioning to my understanding.

I would be opening to applying for pilot and NFO. I just need to double check on my eyesight and make sure it is acceptable.
 

Sandcrab01

New Member
So why AMDO over Aviator or NFO? Do you understand the difference between URL, RL, and Staff Corps? If you want to lead you're far better off going in to URL as opposed to a specialty field with more stringent requirements such as supply, cyber/IWC, or Intel. If you don't care about a designator than just why not shoot for any URL job such as pilot, SWO, or subs. Or look at another service such as USMC or USA that would also offer you an opportunity to lead.
I have looked at them but I’m still not sure I understand how URL, RL and staff corps work or what the differences are. I would definitely appreciate if you could explain it to me because I’m sure it would help me tremendously in this process.
 

Sculpin

Well-Known Member
I have looked at them but I’m still not sure I understand how URL, RL and staff corps work or what the differences are. I would definitely appreciate if you could explain it to me because I’m sure it would help me tremendously in this process.
There is a 42% 100% chance your OR and some Googling can help with that. :)
 

BarryD

Well-Known Member
I have looked at them but I’m still not sure I understand how URL, RL and staff corps work or what the differences are. I would definitely appreciate if you could explain it to me because I’m sure it would help me tremendously in this process.
URL is essentially your "trigger pullers" - NAs, NFOs, SWOs, Sub officers, EOD, SEAL who can eventually have "Command at Sea". A "Command at Sea" is essentially any ship, squadron, sub, EODMU, ST, etc.
RL is support specialties- AMDO, Intel, CW, EDO, AEDO - They can have Command Ashore, but can't Command at Sea.
Staff Corps are support specialties that typically require some sort of unique education - Lawyers, Dentists, Doctors. They can also have Command Ashore.

TLDR: The biggest difference is that URL are the "trigger pullers" and RL/Staff are in support of their mission.
 

Pags

Well-Known Member
pilot
I have looked at them but I’m still not sure I understand how URL, RL and staff corps work or what the differences are. I would definitely appreciate if you could explain it to me because I’m sure it would help me tremendously in this process.
Like sculpin said, a little googling goes a long way. But even the Wikipedia articles are a bit technical with regards the peculiarities of command.

Here's a more basic answer:
URL: warfighters. These officers are the ship drivers, pilots, SEALs, submariners who will lead sailors conducting the navy's core mission and will fight their platforms in the event of war.
RL: niche specialist communities that support various parts of Big Navy.
Staff: military versions of professions such as doctor, dentist, lawyer, supply, etc

Bottom line: do you want to join the Navy to learn to be a warfighter and lead sailors during maritime operations to include combat or do you want to be a technical specialist/profession that supports the fleet?

Edit: @JHoward beat me to it and did a decent job summing it up as well.
 
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