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cross country and the NSS

Fly Navy

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Helmet Fire said:
If by "CCX" you are referring to the instrument flights I4202, I4203, I4204 & I4390 along with the visual nav flights N4001 & N4002, then yes, you can expect your NSS to come down from any previous projection. I flew these flights on my cross country, got fine grades, and mine still dropped a couple points.

Were you a Corpus guy? I ask because Corpus students are SO obsessed with their projected NSS< it's ridiculous. I knew Corpus guys who "knew" their NSS after FAMs. Talk about a waste of time and worrying. Primary NSS is completely unreliable until you complete, and then it's still unreliable until the week of selection. Only Corpus guys would b!tch and moan about how their NSS dropped 10 points between stages or weeks... no one I knew at Whiting even looked at theirs until they were near done. Maybe we got a better lecture on how NSS worked, I don't know, but Corpus guys make me laugh.
 

Chubby

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I think the Whiting guys don't seem to stress it so much, is because they won't even give us a projected NSS or anything like that down here, at least at my squadron. So, it's pretty impossible to know where you are at, or what your NSS is doing. I'm also pretty sure that if they did let us know what our current NSS was, there would be plenty of Whiting studs stressing just the same.
 

Chubby

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Fly Navy said:
RIs is the money-maker in Primary. That's where jets or no jets can really be decided, if all things are equal in FAMs.

I'm about to start RI's and I'm curious as to why that is? What you did, etc. to make a money-maker. Thanks.
 

BugDriver

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You don't really want to know the answer to that question, but since you asked... The RIOT Trainer.

If you don't know what I'm talking about yet, they'll introduce you to it in Ground School. Then it's on you to set aside an hour or so before your sims to "fly" your sim on the RIOT. Most people won't use it after the classroom, but it's on the computers in the sim building. It's boring, nothing-like-the-stick-and-rudder, and seems like the utmost waste of time.

But you'll get the sheet from the Sim building on all the approaches you're expected to fly during your sims, and if you've already "flown" them on the RIOT trainer, you stand to beat MIF pretty handily on those early RI flights when everyone else is turning left onto the arc instead of right -- or whatever. You get the idea.
 

Fly Navy

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Chubby said:
I think the Whiting guys don't seem to stress it so much, is because they won't even give us a projected NSS or anything like that down here, at least at my squadron. So, it's pretty impossible to know where you are at, or what your NSS is doing. I'm also pretty sure that if they did let us know what our current NSS was, there would be plenty of Whiting studs stressing just the same.

You're right, they don't advertise it to the Whiting guys like I've seen they do in Corpus, which is irresponsible of Corpus to do. You can get it if you ask for it though. Of course, it's useless.
 

Fly Navy

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Chubby said:
I'm about to start RI's and I'm curious as to why that is? What you did, etc. to make a money-maker. Thanks.

RIs are about half your events in Primary, that's why. It's a long stage with LOTS of grades. You have an advantage over Corpus guys, being a Whiting guy. That advantage is the ability to practice in the sims as much as you want. Do it. Don't burn yourself out though. I practiced once a day for a while in RIs and it paid dividends.
 

gaijin6423

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Fly's right about the practice, and about having an advantage over Corpus types. My sole biggest complaint about doing primary there was never being able to practice in the sim for RIs. That being said, the RIOT trainer is the next best thing, and should be one of your best friends during RIs. It's still no substitute for using the sim, but it will get you used to what the RMI and needles will be doing for each maneuver. But whatever study aid works for you, I suggest the following: Repetition, repetition, repetition. The 6 Ts may sound gay to recite every time, but hey, they work. Also, work comms into your studying, if you haven't already.
 

beau

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ah STFU FLY! hahaha......RIs, in general, have a higher MIF than Most all early stage stuff...which is why you go down whether you like it or not in RI's. So unless you can go above and beyond and rack up a **** load of 5's your NSS will not increase during RIs (that being said, NSS is not NSS until the week you select..yada yada). RI's are the Make or break stage for Primary in that if you really suck at RI's it will most likely Sink your NSS gradewise. If you are above average...then your score usually will remain the same or maybe a slight hit...or if your **** hot....it could increase. I am not just saying this cause of my situation...this is how it works....at least in Corpus...the way they grade.....dont know...whiting might have been different.
 

Fly Navy

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I just know that the current grading system of "average is below average" due to major grade inflation is getting ridiculous. The IPs agree.

(TS b!tch... Beau knows what I'm talking about)
 

Bevo16

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I think that it is a big waste of time and effort to worry about the numbers while you are in primary. There is just no way to figure out where your NSS is going to fall. Even if you could, there is no way to know what slots are going to be open at selection and where the cutoff points are going to be.

Take your grade cards and see where you need to improve or work harder on. Read the instructor's comments, those are a lot more important than the numbers. DON'T DOWN FLIGHTS!!!!!! If you do your best and come to your brief prepared, you will do well. There was never a promise that you would get your first choice, but I have never met a pilot who did not think that they flew the best piece of gear in the Navy.
 
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