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Considering flight school performance in the fleet

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skidkid

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Was it a post here or just a very bad attitude towards the needs of the Corps?
 

rare21

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UInavy said:
I think I can guess. Was it helo advanced platform selection gripe that I'm thinking of?


yes thats correct, the threads were deleted though..but not fast enough i'm afraid. skidkid, yeah it was posts here that initiated the AOM for us and a pain in the butt for him. BUT, it was his own fault. btw, sorry about the thread jack!
 

flashypants

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rare21 said:
i'm serious...had an entire AOM on it....due to what was said by someone on this site. What was said was emailed to that person's RAG and to their fleet squadron before he left advanced. If thats not a reputation i dont know what is.

No no, I don't doubt that you're serious. I just wanted to see if, one day in the fleet, someone approaches me and says, "So YOU'RE the dude that said 'monkey balls' on AW! You crazy devil!"
 

Brett327

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RetreadRand said:
Other advice...first few months on the squadron you should keep a low profile and not talk about how good you were in flight school or how cool you are now.
Good advise. General rule is that you're not supposed to talk for the first 6 months ;)

Brett
 

USN99

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RetreadRand said:
All of your FITREPS are non-observed so your grades do not affect your future as an officer. Just go into your sqaudron and know your s..t, work your ass off without Sh..ting on your peers, take care of your people, and you won't have a problem.

Other advice...first few months on the squadron you should keep a low profile and not talk about how good you were in flight school or how cool you are now.
Succinct, all true, worthy of an AOM.
But when do AOMs pass out good news?
 

goplay234

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Unofficial RAG report...Interesting. Is this just basically gouge on a dude letting the squadron know if he's a quality player? If you could elaborate, that would be great.
 

Brett327

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goplay234 said:
Unofficial RAG report...Interesting. Is this just basically gouge on a dude letting the squadron know if he's a quality player? If you could elaborate, that would be great.
Pretty much. It happens in various forms. Sometimes the skipper will ask the JOs to get the dirt on the graduating class, other times, the RAG Instructors will give their old squadron a heads up. I've seen cases where the perennial "sh!tbag" is rationed throughout the various squadrons from class to class - kind of like reverse quality spread. "Hey, I got the loser last time, I had better get the SH guy this class." Make sense? Bottom line is that it can't hurt you unless you have a really bad rep already. As often as not, it's the guy's personality that is asked about vice his flying (which is assumed to be mediocre coming out of the RAG). Does he drink w/ the boys, does he have a family, is he a humorless stick in the mud? Stuff like that. The above average RAG student with a good rep should find a CAT III or IV guy going to a squadron they want and start schmoozing. PXOs can usually ask for and get a CAT I to bring along with them to their fleet squadron.

Good times,

Brett
 

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UInavy said:
You might hear "Cone" used to refer to CAT-I students. It comes from the abbreviation of CAT-I or C-ONE, dervived from the Latin word for "dumba$$ who knows just enough to hurt himself." Not generally used as a term of endearment.

LOL
 

webmaster

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What was the original question? Oh yeah, flight school = fleet rep? As beaten to death as it is, dude, it doesn't mean diddly. That pink sheet you sweated out during Primary? No one knows, no one cares. You scored a 79/34 NSS, once again, no one cares. Can you land the plane, fly it tactically, and not try and kill the rest of the crew? Dude, we care!! As mentioned, and man, wish I would have had this thread to read when I went through! You get evaluated at the FRS, I can only speak to the P3 Mafia, but I assume (yeah, ass out of u and me) the other communities do the same as discussed above. The strong players and weak are identified, and the info is passed on to the squadron. You WILL get evaluated at the squadron, in your upgrading flights, but that is a first check "hey, a dirtbag is headed your way, caused problems in the FRS, and we barely didn't kill him" (seen it happen). Or, "golden boy/girl enroute, knows their shiznit and is a funny dude/gal"... Squadron CO/XOs sometimes are on the lookout to fill important billets, so god help ya, you might get tapped to fill one when you report... Legal Officer anyone? (fvvvvvccccckkkkk!!!!!)......

You go the Wings of Gold, and you are feeling all "special", while you MAY think you are Joe Cool, you still ain't **** in the eyes of the FRS and the Fleet Squadron, you my friend are the FNG.... What's that you ask, you got it, FVCKING NEW GUY/GAL...

Best advice, study, do well, keep your trap shut while you settle in (no, there I was stories please), and keep a damn good sense of humor. The best way to make a positive rep is to qualify earlier, do well on your boards and in the plane, and not be a jackass to your peers in the wardroom. You see one of the senior pilots/nfos (LTs) getting overwhelmed (dude, these guys and gals CARRY the squadron), HELP THEM OUT, and it goes a long way, plus you learn something. Flip side, get out and party, socialize with your peers. You may be married or not, but a big part of aviation is the lifestyle and the socialization, shop talk and learning from your peers. I think we as a community have pulled away from this since when A4s was flying tacair, but slowly getting better at it.

Switching gears... stepping on your crank... I genuinely feel for the post here on the forum earlier that has been mentioned. But, you are going to do something spectacularly stupid at some point, keep the game face on and ride it out, makes more points in the long run, and your peers can respect you for it. Also, speaking of having a "big mouth", be carefull what you whisper to a buddy during an AOM, your voice may carry, and the CO can LIGHT you up!!! And no, ummm, I am NOT talking from personal experience, um, yeah... lol
 

Ryoukai

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You go the Wings of Gold, and you are feeling all "special", while you MAY think you are Joe Cool, you still ain't **** in the eyes of the FRS and the Fleet Squadron, you my friend are the FNG.... What's that you ask, you got it, FVCKING NEW GUY/GAL...

I have a picture with "FNG" stamped on the side of a hornet. He must love that callsign.
 

Gatordev

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It's more just a generic title. There will be generic soft patches that say FNG that get passed around or a coffee mug that's always in the wardroom that says FNG. It's not really a callsign for anybody.
 

Brett327

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Legal Officer anyone? (fvvvvvccccckkkkk!!!!!)......
I felt that pain as well. That means we're golden boys, right? :D

Brett
 
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