Commission after leaving OCS

[exNavyOffRec]

If I recall, the EDO community also used to send guys to MIT for advanced degrees. That's a far better education than a year of operators training.

I know one that should be graduating or just did graduate, he was sent to get his MS in Ocean Engineering and Mech Eng.

 

[azguy]

Yeah, it's from another thread he started. That's his original explanation for leaving OCS - Doc gave him bad orthotics (sp?), made his little tootsies hurt. Probably not 100% true, but probably not 100% lie either. The guy is nuts.

Honestly, I'm OK with it because the "system worked;" this turd was flushed out of the officer pipeline and he'll never get back.

 

[Spekkio]

I think a lot of this depends on how you define "actual engineering". EDOs can and will do plenty of program management, systems engineering, and industrial process management. Will an EDO sit and play with AUTOCAD? No, that's not his job. But being an EDO does require a strong technical background. There's more to EDO then your what your ship maintenance rep does.

If I recall, the EDO community also used to send guys to MIT for advanced degrees. That's a far better education than a year of operators training.

I define 'actual engineering' as in sitting down and desiging something, ie 'using CAD' as you state. There are R&D spots open for EDOs but if someone is joining the Navy as an EDO and expects to be designing, for example, the next DDG as a LTJG, he's going to be in for a rude awakening. As with any community, there are more options down-range but I don't necessarily think it's sound to make career decisions based on what you could do if you commit to the Navy for a long time. Something to keep in mind, yes, but the closest alligator is the JO experience and that's all that someone who 'just wants to repay the 4 years he promised' is going to get. For an EDO, my understanding is that entails the following:
-Get warfare pin
-Go to NPS or MIT (this would apparently be a 3rd master's for OP)
-SY or SPAWAR assignment to do EDO quals, vast majority of assignments are SY.

I'm sorry if that was way off or 'bullshit.'

As for my comment about the training pipeline, you need a technical degree to qualify for the advanced coursework the EDO pipeline will put you through. My comment about the line nuke training program is they will take someone who majored in basketweaving and put him through nuke school as long as he has a year of calc and physics, which is usually good enough to get the program manager at NPS for technical masters to waive the undergrad requirements.

 

[BigRed389]

I define 'actual engineering' as in sitting down and desiging something, ie 'using CAD' as you state. There are R&D spots open for EDOs but if someone is joining the Navy as an EDO and expects to be designing, for example, the next DDG as a LTJG, he's going to be in for a rude awakening. As with any community, there are more options down-range but I don't necessarily think it's sound to make career decisions based on what you could do if you commit to the Navy for a long time. Something to keep in mind, yes, but the closest alligator is the JO experience and that's all that someone who 'just wants to repay the 4 years he promised' is going to get. For an EDO, my understanding is that entails the following:
-Get warfare pin
-Go to NPS or MIT (this would apparently be a 3rd master's for OP)
-SY or SPAWAR assignment to do EDO quals, vast majority of assignments are SY.

Fair enough, you're not likely to sit down and design a GTM yourself. That said, you're never going to find an officer community that doesn't focus on management. EDOs (and AEDOs) manage the Navy's engineering programs, which makes it the best fit for a civilian engineer (I'm starting to have my doubts about that part of the OP's creds as well) looking to do something similar in the Navy. And at some point, if you're not a SY type, you're guaranteed to at least do a Systems Engineering job.

Now I don't know how it works for EDO's accessing from subs, and shipyard is ~50% of billets overall, but where you do the qual tour mostly depends on what you do at NPS/MIT (Subspecialty code) which sets you up for your career track.
There are different "career tracks," and SY is just one of them. The other 50% are Acquisition/Program Management (PEO IWS), National Mission (Space/Dive & Salvage/"Other"), and Engineering & Tech (NSWCs).

The Reserve side of it for someone off applying off the street makes it all a bit messier. I'm 99.99% positive the Navy will not pay for a NPS or MIT seat and 2 years AD pay for a Reservist.

 

[chevroletnavy]

I still think going enlisted is my only option for now since I DOR'ed due to my disqualification of sub nuke. I believe going NUKE is out of the question in the reserves.

Im not interested in getting a 3rd masters. To become a EDO, do I still have to get a surface warfare pin? I doubt one can do that just on weekend drills.

 

[DIVO]

EDO has their own qual system in the reserves. Send your resume (detailed one) to a reserve recruiter and maybe some background info and ask them to have the EDO community manager review. That person will let you know if you should submit or not. I've done that a few times and it's saved a lot of time and wondering...

And at the local reserve center we have a DCO EDO guy who is a physics prof at the nearby college... No engineering experience.

 

[keithdsouza]

do anyone know how much chance is there for him to get re 3k waiver.