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Colombian Prostitutes - Good Times or Career Enders?

xj220 said:
*writing down on paper* Visit Colombia, got it.
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I was actually surprised how untalented the local fauna was in Cartagena when I was there, even when we'd roll into the bars to make sure guys weren't getting into trouble. I guess they exported everyone worth noting.

But Cartagena is a little different than the rest of CO. The other place we pulled in, even though liberty sucked (pier), still demonstrated that talent.
 
Gatordev said:
The talent down there is pretty impressive. I didn't see as much of it while in Cartegena, but the girls in Panama (who were Colombian and "exported" up to Panama to work in the local places) are smokin'...until they hit 28-30. Then they blow up.
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That's called the 30/230 theory. Smokin' hot till they hit 30 and spin 230; time to upgrade to the 2/20 theory.
 
Shoulda just paid her. Deployment 1.

I think she's even smoking hot on a non binary scale.
 
HAL Pilot said:
High ranking military officer at the press conference: "I am totally appalled that our servicemen in Columbia dared to do the same thing I did as a young officer on deployment. This kind of behavior was acceptable when I did it but is totally unacceptable for them."

On a serious note, there are now reports that the Secret Service agents might have been using cocaine. That puts this incident in a whole different ballpark.
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Hookers ok - coke bad? Is that how simple it is?

Pretty straight forward - its not 1985, or 1990, or even 2000 anymore and the shit you could get away with then just doesn't fly now. Is that bad or good? It doesn't matter. All that matters is that its a different environment - and its been pretty much beat into the heads of people currently wearing the uniform that things have changed. You can pound your chest and tell tales of trips to Reno all you want - its irrelevant to this story. These guys ended up in the national spotlight with the word "prostitute" attached - what the hell did they/you think was going to happen?
 
OK- Keeping it relevant. Considering todays environment, who in their right mind would grind the fee for a truly attractive gal? He's an American and he needs to set the example. He should have payed the asking rate and tipped her $50. If it were me I would have also thanked her for the old man mercy f___. YMMV depending on your age/looks. Drugs? A simple "no thank you " with a smile would have worked.

Stay classy Special Agents.
 
Pags said:
I find it amusing that this thread has auto generated an ad telling me I can get a free trial to chat with Russian women*.

*actual women may not match picture and may not be actual women.
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It wasn't this thread; it's all the porn in your other browser windows..;)
 
Recovering LSO said:
Hookers ok - coke bad? Is that how simple it is?

Pretty straight forward - its not 1985, or 1990, or even 2000 anymore and the shit you could get away with then just doesn't fly now. Is that bad or good? It doesn't matter. All that matters is that its a different environment - and its been pretty much beat into the heads of people currently wearing the uniform that things have changed. You can pound your chest and tell tales of trips to Reno all you want - its irrelevant to this story. These guys ended up in the national spotlight with the word "prostitute" attached - what the hell did they/you think was going to happen?
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Which is one of my points in this whole thread - it's all about political correctness.

Half the high ranking officers beating their chest about how wrong these guys were probably whored their way around the world as JOs but now pontificate about how wrong it is. Meanwhile, half of these same high ranking officers probably think homosexuality is wrong and has no place in the military, yet they are publicly praising the change. (I'm not trying to get into whether gays in the military are right or wrong, just using this as an example.) The difference? The way the political winds are blowing. I don't like hypocrisy and that is what this is.

Having said that, I know guys in today's military can not get away with the shenanigans we did, especially pre-Tailhook scandal. But for once, I'd like to see an Admiral standup and say: "What these guys did was legal in the country they were in. The public incident in the hotel lobby involved the Secret Service, not our servicemen. These servicemen acted no differently than servicemen have historically and I can not in good conscious take any actions negatively affecting their careers in which they have shown sustained superior service to the Navy and their country." Our leaders have forgotten that loyalty is a two way street and that one of their primary concerns is taking care of their troops.

If they left classified info out in their rooms while the hookers were there, that I can agree needs disciplinary action.
 
HAL Pilot said:
But for once, I'd like to see an Admiral standup and say: "What these guys did was legal in the country they were in. The public incident in the hotel lobby involved the Secret Service, not our servicemen. These servicemen acted no differently than servicemen have historically and I can not in good conscious take any actions negatively affecting their careers in which they have shown sustained superior service to the Navy and their country." Our leaders have forgotten that loyalty is a two way street and that one of their primary concerns is taking care of their troops.
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I don't see this happening...

From the super awesome trafficking in persons training i recently had to complete:

"DOD has a zero tolerance policy for prostitution. Evidence shows that prostitution is inherently harmful and dehumanizing, and fuels trafficking in persons, a form of modern day slavery."
 
HAL, while I agree with your sentiment about someone standing up for these guys, nothing about the incident was "legal." When operating in the SOUTHCOM AOR now, you actually have to sign a document saying you won't be a part of prostitution and its associated acts of human trafficking.

Is that realistic? Of course not, but as you have said, that's where we're at now.
 
Recovering LSO said:
I don't see this happening...
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Agreed. What possible good could come from the top leadership making statements which condone prostitution, breaking long established standards of behavior and embarrasing the Secret Service, military and the President? Seriously? The idea is completely ridiculous. There's a time when you stand up for your guys. There's also a time when you tell them that they've fucked up big time and there's nothing you can do to save their sorry ass. This is one of those times.
 
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