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CMP .. a.k.a. Civilian Marksmanship Program

I have heard of Marines using the dish washer prior to deissuing a rifle at the armory just a rumor though, I heard it worked pretty well
 
A4sForever said:
I'm guessing this was Squeeze's "stock fix" some time ago ... well done, Squeeze. :)
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Oops, guess I should have done a search before I posted(still, much to learn:) ). Sorry about that Squeeze. But no, I didn't copy him, this is the method the armorer had me use, and it worked great. I'll try to put up some pictures once I can figure out this Imageshack thing.
 
Thanks to everyone who posted on this thread and planted the idea in my head; sent my paperwork in 2 weeks ago, and received my like-new-used former Greek issue Garand yesterday. Have wanted one for a long time, and had some post-OIF tax free $$ burning a hole in my pocket. Got a "Service Grade" rifle, which is in much better condition than I might have expected. Can't wait to "return some lead to the ecosystem" with it.

Now, I just have to talk my wife into letting me use the new dishwasher...
 
So...I sent in my order for a Service Grade M1 earler this week...and was stunned when I looked at the website and discovered they were no more...:(

I tried to call and see if more would ever be available but...no answer.

A4's...you seem to have alot of experience with them...what do you think?
 
It's a GREAT program ... it's too bad that bad politics interferes with what is REALLY available, and I'm not talkin' any full-auto stuff. I've got some very collectible pieces, mostly from the early lotteries @ 10 years ago. One rifle is now worth @ $4000-$5000 ....

There is still much stuff available. But politics and politicians interfere, once again. And again. And again. Crime fighting, right ???

The stocks will probably be destroyed some day. Just consider the M1 Carbines alone ....pure treasure, there ...
 
A4sForever said:
It's a GREAT program ... it's too bad that bad politics interferes with what is REALLY available, and I'm not talkin' any full-auto stuff. I've got some very collectible pieces, mostly from the early lotteries @ 10 years ago. One rifle is now worth @ $4000-$5000 ....

There is still much stuff available. But politics and politicians interfere, once again. And again. And again. Crime fighting, right ???

The stocks will probably be destroyed some day. Just consider the M1 Carbines alone ....pure treasure, there ...
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Not to mention all the M-14's which have been rendered incapable of Full Auto fire but are listed as no-no's at the ATF.
 
An M-14 by definition is full auto, making it unsellable. Just as you're never gonna see stock piled M-16's sold to the public. The M-1A is the semi-automatic version of the M-14, just as the AR-15 is with the M-16.
 
xmid said:
An M-14 by definition is full auto, making it unsellable. Just as you're never gonna see stock piled M-16's sold to the public. The M-1A is the semi-automatic version of the M-14, just as the AR-15 is with the M-16.
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Ok to clarify, Im talking about all those USGI Forged reciever M-14's that even after being disabled were ruled to be illegal by the ATF. Basically making a whole mountian of operable weapons useless.
 
Lawman said:
Ok to clarify, Im talking about all those USGI Forged reciever M-14's that even after being disabled were ruled to be illegal by the ATF. Basically making a whole mountian of operable weapons useless.
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Right, I hear you and I weep for the same reason. However I understand why it is. Those USGI forged M-14's have a FA/SA selector switch built in to them. There is no switch on the M-1A. Unlike the AR/M-16's, the M-14 has a seperate selector from the safety. So for the M-14 the reciever itself makes the firearm illegal to sell.
 
xmid said:
Right, I hear you and I weep for the same reason. However I understand why it is. Those USGI forged M-14's have a FA/SA selector switch built in to them. There is no switch on the M-1A. Unlike the AR/M-16's, the M-14 has a seperate selector from the safety. So for the M-14 the reciever itself makes the firearm illegal to sell.
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An M-16 receiver is just as "illegal to sell" as an M-14 receiver; which means, it's not, just regulated more. An AR receiver is not the same as an M-16 receiver. The receiver is the only regulated part anyhow... for just about any long arm. It has nothing to do with whether the safety and selector are co-located or not. Once a machine gun, always a machine gun is how the ATF treats them, so de-milled or not, that's why you won't be buying any M-14s from the gov't. Now, parts kits... who knows why not.
 
I know what you mean squeeze. I meant that you won't see any recievers that even resemble an M-14 because of the selector switch. Throw an auto sear in an AR-15 that doesn't have a sear block (anything other than colt) and it functions the same as an M-16. The part registered can be the sear, reciever, lightening link, whatever but it is not the actual reciever of an M-16 that makes it full auto. Take a bare M-16 reciever, put an AR lower parts kit in it, and you essentially have an AR-15 with M-16 written on the side cause it won't go full auto. (I know you can't do this.) I have seen AR lowers with a selector stop at FA, but obviously they won't go full auto and the same with HK 94's. I meant that since the parts that make a M-14 go FA are built in to the reciever and therefore you will never ever see a semi-auto with a true M-14 look-a-like reciever. I know how the ATF treats "once a machine gun always a machine gun" I'm talking more about civilian sales. This is the way it was explained to me at least. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this squeeze?
 
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