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How about SWO Call signs? Not exactly what you're looking for but...
Exactly. It's called professional courtesy.
When dealing with O-4 and above be careful what you call them. I ignored this PC phenomena for a while. In Barbados, during one port visit -my old XO tried to throw me off the 7th floor hotel balcony for "repeated use/abuse of the English language" while he was hammered. During that incident the CO grabbed him and told him to CHILL in 1980's vocabulary. I loved to crop the F bomb at times and this particular XO was absolutely driven crazy by that. What an prude and pre-madonna. THANK YOU XO LCDR BILL WALSH! I still think of you! If you ever get to Fresno give me a call!
That said- I was a JG with an attitude. Does it still show 25 years later? It didn't work well on this XO's ship. USS Boone FFG-28. The CO was great to me so go figure, the XO was a prick and a bonafied "Who stole the Strawberries" type gent that was very socially adept to non ships company? YUP, on some ships the XO is really the CO if the XO's ego is strong enough. BELIEVE IT!
As I learned the political game as a junior officer, it became apparent that NAVY politics are often similar to CIV politics, in some cases worse. I still refer to him as "ASSHOLE" to my favorite former active duty friends who retired in recent years.
Don't get me wrong I still love the NAVY and MANY friends that I made. I still keep in touch with several of them to this day. The politics at times were another story. I think the 80's were the beginning of the PC revolution for many O-4's. Some even viewed this newly manufactured PC thing as a tool that could accelerate advancement if applied strategically. Sorry for quasi-thread jack.
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CAMike, at no point did you touch on the subject at hand.
We are all dumber for having read that.
To further illustrate co/xo callsign usage, if co/xo are calling each other by callsign within a flight it is by no means okay for hinge and below to follow suit. Still skipper/xo, unless it's on Jopa tac. Game on.
OK, OK, OK. Take your pack off.Hey, Cat...you were doin' good, 'til you got to this:
"For us air-to-air fighters, personal callsigns were a tactical necessity! But we always later laughed as the callsign phenomena spread (unnecessarily) to attack drivers..."
So you see no need for clear, concise comm in a "furball" over Hanoi, Phu Ly, Thanh Hoa...involving a/c from two different CAG's, from two different CVA's...maybe some USAF guys...now toss in a couple MIG's...no tactical necessities here, though...right??![]()
So just how many AW's here are using their callsigns here?
Obviously you made it great.I use mineSo I was at Barnes and Noble today and happened upon a book, Flying the Worlds Greatest Military Aircraft and there was a quote from me and they used my callsign, Bunky. Now don't ask me why the E2/C2 was mentioned in a book on the world's greatest military aircraft
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Obviously you made it great.I figured you and Master were using call-signs, not sure on some of the others though.