Assault Weapon Ban

[VetteMuscle427]

72 hours until "The Ban" expires... anyone have a shopping list?

 

[d_bossart]

sweet! Now I can get the matching MP5 for my USP :dopey_125

 

[Fly Navy]

sweet! Now I can get the matching MP5 for my USP :dopey_125

Good luck, those fall under the 1989 Import Ban. Plus, nothing on them that really feel under the AWB except the detachable magazine.

 

[Fly Navy]

Yes, on the 14th I'm buying an AR-15 stripped lower reciever and a M-4 style kit. Mmmmmm.

 

[d_bossart]

Just bragging about my USP

 

[Fly Navy]

Just bragging about my USP

And you have every right to brag Nice pistols. I'd like to pick one up someday, but they're so expensive. Maybe a used one.

I need more SIGs though... oh I love SIG.

 

[d_bossart]

It's all about HIGH CAPACITY magazines.

 

[Fly Navy]

It's all about HIGH CAPACITY magazines.

Got 3 for my SIG and 2 for my Glock

Oh and 10 for my AR-15

 

[Grant]

It's all about HIGH CAPACITY magazines.

You've always been able to buy high capacity mags, as long as they were manufactured pre-ban.

So what exactly is going to be legalized when the Brady Bill expires? We still wont be able to buy full auto rifles, are we?

 

[Fly Navy]

You've always been able to buy high capacity mags, as long as they were manufactured pre-ban.

So what exactly is going to be legalized when the Brady Bill expires? We still wont be able to buy full auto rifles, are we?

Yes, we know this of course. But we can buy NEW ones at a lower price. The current pre-bans are crazy priced.

And this isn't the Brady Bill. The Brady Bill is a completely different piece of legislation.

Ok, I fvcking HATE the irresponsible media and these RETARDS who are trying to promote an extension of the LAW. This LAW DOES NOT COVER FULLY AUTOMATIC FIREARMS. FULLY AUTOMATIC FIREARMS HAVE NEVER BEEN ILLEGAL. I REPEAT, FULLY AUTOMATIC FIREARMS HAVE NEVER BEEN ILLEGAL, NOT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I'm not yelling at you, I just want to draw attention to those sentences.

The expiration of this law means we can buy new standard capacity magazines and we don't have to neuter our rifles by removing collapsable stocks, flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, grenade launcher attachments, and such. Yes, they're all cosmetic, before someone says "you don't use them anyway!". Though, a collapsable stock has a real, legitimate use.

 

[Grant]

If automatic firearms are not illegal, how would one go about getting one? Do you have to have a license for one or something? I was under the impression that they were illegal...

 

[Fly Navy]

If automatic firearms are not illegal, how would one go about getting one? Do you have to have a license for one or something? I was under the impression that they were illegal...

Most people are. Ok this is what you need to do.

You need to live in a state that allows them. Most states actually do. If you want to find out if your state does, go to www.nra-ila.org and look under their laws section for your state.

You need to find a Class III FFL. They're the guys that can sell them.

You need lots and lots and lots of money to buy one (try $8000 for an M-16). Find one you can afford (MAC-10s are "cheap" at about $2000+)

Buy it and pay the $200 Tax Stamp that is required under the National Firearms Act of 1934.

Fill out the paper work required for your massive background check.

Wait 4-6 months.

Pick up your shiney "new" automatic firearm.

Spend entirely too much money on ammunition to feed it.

ROCK AND ROLL!!!

Realize that buying commercial ammunition is way too expensive and buy a reloading set to reload your own ammunition.

ROCK AND ROLL!!!

 

[PropStop]

So what exactly is going to be legalized when the Brady Bill expires? We still wont be able to buy full auto rifles, are we?

full auto isn't illegal if you have the proper permit. The 1934 National Firearms Act made it illegal to own a full auto gun unless you got a permit (to the tune of $200 for each gun). A class III FFL will give you the ability to buy full auto, i think you even avoid the tax (because you'd be a dealer) but that costs $1000+ a year I think, not exactly sure how you go about getting a class III FFL. Legal full auto guns must also be registered with the BATF.

The Assault Weapon's Ban, banned certain guns, eg: AR-15, AK's, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle , etc. Full text of the bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.2038:

It also started a "BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES", such as pistol mags of greater than 10 rounds. Now if a mag was made BEFORE the Assault Weapons Ban, then it can be bought and sold, those mags run around $80-100 for my Glock. You can, if you're a cop or other official government employee (with the need), buy high caps for retail price (about $20) which are post ban, but those mags say "Law Enforcement or Government Use Only". If you were to be caught using one by Johnny Law, you'd be screwed, big time.

You can still buy those guns listed above, again so long as they were imported prior to the ban. Before the ban you could pick up a Chinese AK for $70, now they're around $175-250 (i've seen lots of other prices, but that seemed to be the average).

The lifting of this ban will be a good thing. wish i had more disposable income! I don't have any desire to shoot people (well, that's not entirely true, the next jackass who doesn't use his turn signal....), i just like wasting paper targets - with an assault rifle. They're fun and like any other firearm, perfectly safe in the hands of an adult or used under adult supervision.

One thing the anti-gun people seem to forget is that guns do NOT kill people, I kill people...er...people kill people, yes, that's it...

viva la revolution!

edited: wrong bill, i posted about the brady bill, not assault weapons ban

 

[Grant]

Haha, wow. Sounds way too pricey for me. Good info to know, though.

 

[Fly Navy]

Please don't use the term Assault Rifle unless you actually have one. An assault rifle is a rifle that fires and intermediate cartridge capable of SELECT fire.

AR-15 = rifle.

M-16 = assault rifle.

Yes, I'm wicked picky