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Army May Have to Borrow to Meet Payroll

usmarinemike

Solidly part of the 42%.
pilot
Contributor
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,167334,00.html?ESRC=navynews.RSS

Any thoughts on this? I did not realize that each branch had to come up with its own funds for payroll?


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You know. Squeaky wheel and all. Doubtful that the major land force of a well run superpower will have to go without pay. :icon_roll
 

HeloBubba

SH-2F AW
Contributor
How do they run out of payroll money for the year? It is not like they are paying the troops for unplanned overtime. I wonder if they spent their payroll funds on something else. I also wonder if this is just a tactic to get the supplemental funding passed by Congress.
 

magnetfreezer

Well-Known Member
How do they run out of payroll money for the year? It is not like they are paying the troops for unplanned overtime. I wonder if they spent their payroll funds on something else. I also wonder if this is just a tactic to get the supplemental funding passed by Congress.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/05/military_emergencyfunding_050608w/

Looks like the Pentagon needed funding for war operations while trying to get an emergency spending bill passed; they decided to borrow it from payroll accounts and with no spending bill the payroll accounts will run out as well.
 

lowflier03

So no $hit there I was
pilot
Just to throw it out there. The Army has fucked up before and not paid people. My college roommate spent about 9 months without a paycheck. After going to ranger school, he showed up at his next training assignment and his pay got messed up. He was told that it could not be fixed until he transferred to his next command. No one cared to help him, so he ended up living off credit cards while he was there. Come time to transfer to the next command, they wont let him leave until he pays his BOQ bill. Kinda hard to do when the Army wont pay you. Well again, they "wouldn't" fix his pay until he got to the next duty station.

IMO this is just like everything else they are throwing out. They have been poorly managing resources and are trying to get everyone else to fix it for them.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Any thoughts on this? I did not realize that each branch had to come up with its own funds for payroll?

How do they run out of payroll money for the year? It is not like they are paying the troops for unplanned overtime. I wonder if they spent their payroll funds on something else. I also wonder if this is just a tactic to get the supplemental funding passed by Congress.

IMO this is just like everything else they are throwing out. They have been poorly managing resources and are trying to get everyone else to fix it for them.

I agree with HeloBubba and lowflier, this is almost all the Army's fault. There is no excuse for piss-poor money management.

And as I say this, my work can't pay us any more overtime because they at the max for payroll for the year already. Gotta love the government. :eek:
 

FLYTPAY

Pro-Rec Fighter Pilot
pilot
None
My college roommate spent about 9 months without a paycheck.
Not getting paid for 9 months!?? I am pretty sure that getting legal involved, calling his congressman, having a little bit of self-initiative, or any common sense derived from getting a college-education could have prevented this.
 

plc67

Active Member
pilot
In the 50s there was a payless payday in the entire Marine Corps. In addition several NCOs wound up getting promoted a few years after they were killed in Korea. Not to mention reservists getting sent to combat,read infantry, without having gone through recruit training. The USMC is an outstanding organization but they've fumbled the ball a few times.
 

eddie

Working Plan B
Contributor
Not getting paid for 9 months!?? I am pretty sure that getting legal involved, calling his congressman, having a little bit of self-initiative, or any common sense derived from getting a college-education could have prevented this.

They issue common sense at college? :(
 

xj220

Will fly for food.
pilot
Contributor
On a quick sidetrack, what are those spikes sticking out from the top and bottom of the helos?
 

HueyCobra8151

Well-Known Member
pilot
They are bayonets in case you run out of ammunition and need to kill some troops on the ground.

(They are actually wire cutters, theoretically if you hit a powerline or something it should slide up or down until it reaches one of the cutters and be cut before hitting the swashplate or the skids or something else important)
 

Oh-58Ddriver

Scouts Out!
None
Contributor
WSPS is the official term - Wire Strike Protection System. HueyCobra's description is correct, though I would remove the term "theoretically." One pilot I talked to did not even see the wires until he heard the cut.
 

usmarinemike

Solidly part of the 42%.
pilot
Contributor
I've heard that they do wires up to two inches in diameter. Thats damn thick. Is this true?
 
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