All things MV-22 Osprey

[phrogdriver]

Anyone with an open mind who has flown both care to chime in?

Ahem...

They both have their fun points. The tandem-rotor on the CH-46 allows you to whip it around at low speeds, and it's pretty nimble down low. It doesn't care much about where the wind is blowing from, which is nice.

Big picture though, the V-22 is a lot more of a rush to fly. When you come out of a zone, you COME OUT OF THE ZONE! You're going from being in a field on the deck to over 200 knots in a very short time. The rates of climb and descent are much greater. TERF has its charms, but unless you're below 100' and hooking and jabbing with trees, it's not all that great. LAT in eastern NC with a V-22 can get a little repetitive, but take it up in the mountains, and it is some of the coolest flying you'll ever get to do.

Other big plus--a cross country in an Osprey is indeed a little boring--IFR all the way. But, it's not a week-long, butt-numbing, sweat-inducing endurance challenge like it is in a helicopter.

 

[Birdog8585]

LAT in eastern NC with a V-22 can get a little repetitive, but take it up in the mountains, and it is some of the coolest flying you'll ever get to do.

Mountains as in western-NC mountains or mountains as in Chocolate mountains?

 

[phrogdriver]

WV to some extent, because we'll fly there and back from New River.

Better tough, are the ones out West. Some of my best times flying were with the V-22 in the mountains near Albuquerque.

 

[Herc_Dude]

Other big plus--a cross country in an Osprey is indeed a little boring--IFR all the way. But, it's not a week-long, butt-numbing, sweat-inducing endurance challenge like it is in a helicopter.

At 9k or 10k (um, I mean 9999') or do you guys put on the hose?

 

[HeyJoe]

100124-N-8241M-098 GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba (Jan. 24, 2010) An MV-22 Osprey assigned to the Golden Eagles of Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron (VMM) 162 taxis to the flight line at the airfield at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay. The Golden Eagles transported pallets of meals-ready-to-eat from the airfield to Haiti. Golden Eagles is participating in Operation Unified Response providing military support capabilities to civil authorities to help stabilize and improve the situation in Haiti in the wake of the 7.0 magnitude earthquake on Jan. 12, 2010. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Bill Mesta/Released)

 

[phrogdriver]

At 9k or 10k (um, I mean 9999') or do you guys put on the hose?

We'll go on the hose and go higher, especially if we don't have pax.

 

[busdriver]

they ran out of power at the bottom

Since when is that an aircraft problem?

 

[phrogdriver]

You put enough crap on anything and it can run out of power at the bottom. Or simply come in too fast.

A more appropo comment would be, "It has more power."

 

[Birdog8585]

From Marine Corps News. 26 JAN 2010.

 

[HeyJoe]

100127-N-1082Z-073 CARIBBEAN SEA (Jan. 27, 2010) Fight deck directors aboard the amphibious dock landing ship USS Ashland (LSD 48) launch an MV-22 Osprey assigned to Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron (MMV) 162. Ashland is supporting Operation Unified Response following a 7.0 magnitude earthquake that caused severe damage in Haiti on Jan. 12. (U.S. Navy photo, by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Jason R. Zalasky/Released)

 

[phrogdriver]

100127-N-1082Z-073 CARIBBEAN SEA (Jan. 27, 2010) Fight deck directors aboard the amphibious dock landing ship USS Ashland (LSD 48) launch an MV-22 Osprey assigned to Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron (MMV) 162. Ashland is supporting Operation Unified Response following a 7.0 magnitude earthquake that caused severe damage in Haiti on Jan. 12. (U.S. Navy photo, by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Jason R. Zalasky/Released)

MMV?

That might actually make sense, but it's really VMM.

 

[busdriver]

Or simply come in too fast.

Sorry if I was cryptic, and I know you already know what I'm talking about. However if you "run out of power at the bottom" it's because you as the pilot screwed up. Either you were too fast like you said, or it's an approach you didn't have the power to execute in the first place. How is that a fault of the aircraft? You knew what you had before you started the approach.

 

[Pags]

Sorry if I was cryptic, and I know you already know what I'm talking about. However if you "run out of power at the bottom" it's because you as the pilot screwed up. Either you were too fast like you said, or it's an approach you didn't have the power to execute in the first place. How is that a fault of the aircraft? You knew what you had before you started the approach.

You should write mishap reports.

 

[phrogdriver]

Which still doesn't make sense... V = fixed wing, H = helicopter. Why couldn't the upper-echelon come up with a NEW letter (perish the thought) that indicated the unique capability of this aircraft... I can understand not using T, so as not to confuse it with a training squadron. What about just about any other letter in the alphabet? What about OMM (O is halfway between V and H)? I doesn't make any less sense than V for fixed wing.

Out of curiosity, have they solved the exhaust/shipboard problems? I had heard tell about hot plates, rotating the nacelles, etc... Is it more pronounced on big decks? Any problems on little decks?

The V makes no sense. Agreed.

As far as heating, there little problem on the big deck, as long as you don't stay at flight idle for an extended period on deck.

On some of the smaller decks, they will bring out hot plates to put under the nacelles if the aircraft's on deck for a long time.

 

[Birdog8585]

As far as heating, there little problem on the big deck, as long as you don't stay at flight idle for an extended period on deck.

On some of the smaller decks, they will bring out hot plates to put under the nacelles if the aircraft's on deck for a long time.

Have they thought about a Nacelle modification such as a deflector of some sort that could be actuated on demand - not to interfere with aerodynamics while in flight; i.e., NATOPS limited, used only while on deck at flight idle or ground taxi (so you don't torch taxiway lights)?