I am currently in the Navy, I’ve been in for 3 ½ years, and want to become an officer. Unfortunately, I’m disqualified from applying for the STA-21 program because PRIMS shows I have 3 PRT failures. My service record shows I haven’t failed one, as a matter of fact every one of my evaluations says P/WS. My last evaluation shows a P/WS, but I got a 2.65 with Significant Problems because of these PRT failures. I’ve brought this to the attention of my current command, but I haven’t received the support I had hoped. I’ve actually been fighting this issue for over a year now with no positive feedback at all. My EOAS is June 07 and I’m about two year off from finishing my degree. I was thinking that if they let me I would become a Reservist, but now I’m thinking that it might be better to cut all ties to the military, finish off my degree and then try to come back into the Navy. I’m extremely confused and frustrated about my situation. I don’t want to give up my dream of becoming an Officer, but I’m afraid I might have to because of these wrong PRT failures. If anyone has any advice for me it would be greatly appreciated.
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- Thread starter geeky1
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Ok, so here's the question everyone's probably going to wonder - did you or did you not fail any of those PRTs? We understand what your service record/evals show, but to be honest those are just drop-down boxes on the eval form. They could say you've got 12 toes and it wouldn't make any difference. The info entered in PRIMS is done at the conclusion of each PRT cycle. If it showed a failure you weren't supposed to have, why did it take three cycles? I'm sure you know this, but it takes only one thing to equal a failure (could pass all physical aspects but fail BCA = failure, etc.).
Got any extra info before you want us to give our inputs?
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Stubby
Ask the Chief
It sounds like the Navy has made an error. Either you have failed 3 PRT's and it wasn't properly documented in your evals, or you have not failed 3 PRT's and it was improperly entered into PRIMS. If the former case is true, you are correctly disqualified from STA-21.
If the later is true, and you have not failed the PRT's, you obviously have a problem. Unfortunately, your evals do not over ride PRIMS, in fact the opposite is true. I would say that whoever wrote your former evals didn't consult PRIMS (which they should have).
It sounds as though you are no longer in the command that reported your failures; That's a problem for you. If that command does not report that your failures were an administrative error you really have no recourse, as PRIMS is the only real evidence of your PRT standing. They should have had you sign a page 13 for each failure and mandated you to the fitness enhancement program, but it sounds like that may not have happened.
I hate to be a dark cloud, but I would suspect that your problems go beyond your STA-21 aspirations. It is doubtful that with 3 PRT failures you will be approved for Perform To Serve (PTS), and so will not be approved for re-enlistment (i.e. the reserves is probably out) and you may get an administrative discharge that will not allow re-entry into the service.... officer or enlisted.
This is all highly speculative based on the limited information that you have provided. I understand that you have been dealing with this for a while, but I encourage you to sit down with your Mentor, LPO, and/or Chief as well as your Career Counselor to go over your options.
If the later is true, and you have not failed the PRT's, you obviously have a problem. Unfortunately, your evals do not over ride PRIMS, in fact the opposite is true. I would say that whoever wrote your former evals didn't consult PRIMS (which they should have).
It sounds as though you are no longer in the command that reported your failures; That's a problem for you. If that command does not report that your failures were an administrative error you really have no recourse, as PRIMS is the only real evidence of your PRT standing. They should have had you sign a page 13 for each failure and mandated you to the fitness enhancement program, but it sounds like that may not have happened.
I hate to be a dark cloud, but I would suspect that your problems go beyond your STA-21 aspirations. It is doubtful that with 3 PRT failures you will be approved for Perform To Serve (PTS), and so will not be approved for re-enlistment (i.e. the reserves is probably out) and you may get an administrative discharge that will not allow re-entry into the service.... officer or enlisted.
This is all highly speculative based on the limited information that you have provided. I understand that you have been dealing with this for a while, but I encourage you to sit down with your Mentor, LPO, and/or Chief as well as your Career Counselor to go over your options.
Geez Brett, don't you have finals or something I'm paying for you to do?
Finals is next week, but I thank you for your fractional contribution to my education nonetheless.
I'll have you know that good stewardship of taxpayer dollars is foremost on my mind and I'm doing everything possible to ensure that they get their moneys worth.Brett
I want a refund or my change back then.Finals is next week, but I thank you for your fractional contribution to my education nonetheless.
Brett
I want a refund or my change back then.
You guys are gonna miss me when I get back to the real Navy and post once per month instead of once every 5 minutes.
Brett
Real Navy? Whats that?
The Navy where I wear a uniform, go to work everyday, and have an actual purpose relating to the national security.
Brett
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
Read as:
Wear fireproof pajamas, go to a desk, surf AW, and answer questions there instead of at home in his boxers.
That and burn OPTAR.
NavyCommsET
Registered User
When I was preparing my STA-21 package this year, my previous command had never entered any data into PRIMS. I contacted them and had an official letter typed up to the STA-21 board with my PRT scores on it. I added that letter into my package, and also faxed a copy to the PRIMS administrative office. Needless to say, all the correct data is now listed in PRIMS.
Dustin
Dustin