01JUN26 SNA/SNFO board

[exNavyOffRec]

So I did look at both and could not find any advantage to applying via ISPP if I already qualify for ISEL. The ISPP PA states "following the URLO ISPP selection panel, NRC will notify selectees and process them to attend OCS" and the Pilot PA states "any officer applicant that meets criteria for immediate selection will bypass the normal Officer Candidate School (OCS) PROREC board pending review from the Officer Community Manager and be processed for shipping to OCS as soon as possible". To me, those both read as "if you apply this way you will be processed for OCS". I could be missing something from a recruiters perspective though.

These are the the key differences between the two. ISPP gets priority, if an AD with 9/9/9 and apply via ISEL and another AD with 5/5/5 applies via ISPP the ISPP person gets priority. If quotas are full ISEL gets put on hold while a person who applies ISPP can end up moving forward as in the below snip N-13 will normally grant additional quotas for ISPP.

If a person is AD ISPP is the better path as it has less stringent score requirements, it has the quicker path, it is the more guaranteed path.

 

[bailey8756]

These are the the key differences between the two. ISPP gets priority, if an AD with 9/9/9 and apply via ISEL and another AD with 5/5/5 applies via ISPP the ISPP person gets priority. If quotas are full ISEL gets put on hold while a person who applies ISPP can end up moving forward as in the below snip N-13 will normally grant additional quotas for ISPP.

If a person is AD ISPP is the better path as it has less stringent score requirements, it has the quicker path, it is the more guaranteed path.

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Good info. I did read paragraph F of the URLO ISPP PA but did not know they got priority over ISEL. Both ISEL and ISPP specify that candidates bypass the normal PROREC process.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Good info. I did read paragraph F of the URLO ISPP PA but did not know they got priority over ISEL. Both ISEL and ISPP specify that candidates bypass the normal PROREC process.

Correct, in the current situation those sitting waiting for ISEL might not be waiting if they went ISPP.

 

[bailey8756]

Correct, in the current situation those sitting waiting for ISEL might not be waiting if they went ISPP.

Dang. I should see if I can still do ISPP then. Already applied via ISEL.

 

[elariosa95]

Every aviator I’ve talked with in the Navy has told me they didn’t have flight experience or it doesn’t matter, just what I’ve personally been told, even by CAGs. What they have recommended is at least trying an introductory flight, but every aviator so far has told me it won’t make a difference at the board.

I had 0 flight hours when I got selected. It, in fact, does not matter for your application.

I’ve heard both sides of this. Some navy pilots have told me it helps, and then a very credible naval aviator told me it’s absolutely a detractor in an application because civilian flying is much different than military flying and some of the habits learned flying privately are hard to shake during military flight training.

If/when you get picked up, you will learn how to fly the way the Navy wants you to learn how to fly. It’s a faster pace of learning/flying, but not impossible.

For example, if one were to even get their multi-engine add on, or even CFI/CFII, they'd get picked up one hundred percent, and if they did not, it would not be logical.

You’d be surprised how many CFI/CFII’s/people with prior flight time struggle with the pace of primary. Just because you know how to fly already doesn’t mean you’ll be able to keep up with the syllabus. The landing pattern looks/feels a lot different when you’re flying 120 knots vs 70 knots. Not to say that they wouldn’t pick it up eventually, but it’s not always a guarantee

 

[DocHolliday]

I had 0 flight hours when I got selected. It, in fact, does not matter for your application.


If/when you get picked up, you will learn how to fly the way the Navy wants you to learn how to fly. It’s a faster pace of learning/flying, but not impossible.


You’d be surprised how many CFI/CFII’s/people with prior flight time struggle with the pace of primary. Just because you know how to fly already doesn’t mean you’ll be able to keep up with the syllabus. The landing pattern looks/feels a lot different when you’re flying 120 knots vs 70 knots. Not to say that they wouldn’t pick it up eventually, but it’s not always a guarantee

How many folks would you say washed out (and for what) in each phase of your training?

 

[elariosa95]

How many folks would you say washed out (and for what) in each phase of your training?

It’s hard to give an exact number but each phase is basically a sieve that gets more and more restrictive.

NIFE definitely gets a lot of people. The pure amount of new info they try to cram into your head in 4 weeks is hard to get used to, especially if you’re a non-STEM/aviation major and you’re entirely brand new to the content. I’d recommend reading ahead while in the pool.

Primary is a major step up from NIFE. People who struggled in NIFE will most likely have a harder time in primary. A few of my friends ended up DOR’ing in primary

Advanced was giga chill tbh. As far as I know, no one has been attrited in advanced, but multi-engine advanced is also a totally different animal compared to strike and helo advanced.