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In a presentation by the Cryptologic Warfare OCM I attended several months ago he specifically named this as something weighed when selecting new accessions. We are a very prior-heavy community, which - like you're getting at - causes problems at the O-4/5 levels when O-3Es hit 20 and bail...

I can't speak specifically to poopie suits, since when I went through we didn't wear them, but I think the larger point is that OCS is designed to mentally destroy you for the first 3-6 weeks and then slowly put you back together, building your confidence up so that by graduation you feel ready...

And all this time all I thought we did was SIGINT... What else can you find online about my job? I'm here to learn.

Awesome. I would typically tend to advise someone in your position to be patient and go the active officer route - better pay, better quality of life, more responsibility/influence, and, like RUFIO said, the option to get your MA for free is always there. That said, you may be able to...

What are your exact reasons for wanting to be in the Navy? That might determine what course you should pursue. Do you just want to 'serve' in some way shape or form? Looking to get a foot in the door of the intel world or are you open to different types of jobs? Do you want to be in a leadership...

It changed earlier this year: http://www.stationhypo.com/2016/05/designation-of-cryptologic-warfare.html Here is some good discussion from many of the leaders in the 1810 community: http://www.stationhypo.com/2016/01/attention-iw-officers-we-have-new-name.html

Supply Corps and EOD? That's kind of like saying you're thinking about buying a Prius or a Lamborghini... two incredibly different jobs in every aspect. I don't mean to sound rude or snippy, but EOD is nearly impossible to get picked up for OCS for as a non-prior; not that that's ever a good...

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IRT keeping it short and concise: first isolate what exactly it is you're trying to tell the board by saying something, then cut/tailor from there. For example, instead of saying that you did well in a competition that measured mental grit, etc etc, I would lead off a paragraph by saying in no...

My biggest bit of constructive criticism on this is that it's very disorganized. You kind of jump from one thing to the next without having an overall coherent message. I'd refer you to my message to another poster above for how I recommend structuring this type of essay, but overall you need to...

What I found to be very effective when preparing for OCS was to do a quick, simple pushup workout 3 times a week. So, in addition to whatever other workouts you may be doing, set aside a little time (I liked doing it in the morning before I went to work) and do 10 sets of pushups with a 1 minute...

Firstly, I would recommend managing expectations, since you really never know what's going to happen on a given board, despite stats and qualifications. That said, a recruiter can speak to that aspect better than me. To your question, the three designators are pretty different from each other...

My $.02: This is focused completely and solely on you (my life, I decided, I did this, I, I, I), when you need to be demonstrating: 1. You have a reason for joining that's ideally something a little more concrete than just a generic 'dream come true.' You say that being an Officer is your...

I think he raises many legitimate points, especially when it comes to making more enemies than we are killing with drone strikes, but I have a hard time accepting his version of history when he's got such a clearly anti-US agenda.

LOL ... it was a joke, right?

I just finished "Relentless Strike" by Sean Naylor. It's a disturbingly detailed history of JSOC operations and structure. A great read for sure, but it really makes you wonder what the hell some of those guys were thinking when they went on the record in interviews. Next up is Steve Coll's...

I recommend doing some research on security clearances and what will likely delay/prevent you from getting one (i.e. foreign national association is a big one). Also, no, we're not getting along very well with Russia right now...

To echo what's already been said, Cryptologic Warfare Officers never have to use or speak a foreign language for our job. That said, regional, cultural and even language expertise on China is a valuable asset. You will be in charge of CTIs and will most likely work on the Asia-Pacific target set...

Yes, it's a single-scope background investigation, meaning they are only trying to find out if there's any reason you wouldn't be loyal to the US. Usually taken care of in Pensacola at IWBC. Very different from a lifestyle poly, required for civilian intel agencies where anything you've ever...

Not to nitpick - I can barely keep the name changes straight myself - but the new name for 1810s is Cryptologic Warfare Officer (CWO - the warrants are thrilled), as opposed to 1840 Cyber Warfare Engineer (CWE).

Fair enough, you don't have to be a PT stud to be a good officer. However, failing the in-PFA at OCS shows that you either didn't prepare properly, didn't do the research to understand the requirements, or didn't care enough to get yourself where the Navy requires you do be (and will continue to...

For those interested in/applying for IW (soon to be Cryptologic Warfare), the detailer made a facebook page with lots of good info, including a breakdown of 2015 OCS selection statistics. https://www.facebook.com/Pers472/ Also great for staying up to date with gouge and community happenings...

I completely agree and I think we're all ultimately saying the same thing. My original point was only that the same way it's unproductive when IWs try to overstep their role, it's equally unproductive to act like they have no role just because they're not URLs.

I would argue that IWs do spend our careers honing our craft in order to win wars, whether or not we see combat. We are not URLs and shouldnt pretend to be, but here's food for thought: on intel collection missions, are we to believe the IDC crew doing the mission are not warfighters, but the...

I agree that IWs are over-anxious to take the title of "warfighters" but disagree with your statement. Specifically, the implication that wearing an IDC pin makes you a non-warfighter but wearing a URL pin does. Whether or not your job is considered "warfare" is entirely dependent on your...

Yes, I understand the difference, and stand by my statement. In any case, I'm not looking to argue with you, just help out the OP based on my experience if requested.

I don't look at applicants every day, so I have no basis for comparison there, but I do work with IWOs every day and can say that these are similar, if not good stats (considering the MS) for the community. Not to say he/she is a shoe-in, but I'd certainly think competitive.

A few points (from another IW): - You need to seriously evaluate why you want a commission in the Navy. Like many new Officers I know, you have a lot of demands and sound awfully eager to soak up the privileges of commissioned service, but I promise you the majority of it is not glamorous, no...

Yes, you do. Feel free to PM if you have questions about the IW community.

You are well-positioned to be a good candidate. I can't speak for Intel, but the IW community is heavy in prior-service and lateral transfer Officers. One thing to remember is that IW is much more technical than all-source intelligence analysis. Some people who are drawn to analysis...

I can't tell you you'll get a TS, but I can tell you this is wrong - my wife is a foreign national. What they are mainly looking for is your connection with China - so, if you have family/friends there that you keep in touch with, have you ever/how many times have you/your family been there...

I had this issue too - why they need the original and not a copy is beyond me. When I went I brought her original ID with a pre-addressed/paid for overnight envelope so that once they didn't need it, I could have a candio toss it in the mail. The reality is that I waited at least a week or two...

My advice would be to apply for what you want, not what you think you may/may not have the best chances of getting. Intel and IW are VERY different from SWO, so if you're not fully committed to being a SWO (or any other designator you list), don't list it at all when you apply. I won't...

Oh yeah right!! bear crawl to me right now

Yes, the past 2-3 classes have gotten pistol qualified

Nothing wrong with that, but let's be clear that nothing about OCS is fun. I don't recommend losing sleep over what the DI might or might not do, but my single objective (and that of pretty much everyone there) was to get through in 12 weeks and no more. I'm not sure why anyone would risk...

You'll be given a booklet that includes this (Appendix B) http://www.ocs.navy.mil/pdfs/OCR%20APP%20B%20-%20Inspection%20Knowledge.pdf

Most medical stuff was taken care of during indoc week on Monday and Tuesday (before the IST on Wednesday), however if you are NFO, Pilot, Sub-Nuke or for whatever reason need further testing, you might have to go in periodically to test for random things.

Just to round out the good info already here - I would absolutely recommend coming in to OCS able to get at least an excellent on the PRT, if not max it out from the get-go for the sole reason that it will make your life easier while you're there. First off, the people that suck at PT get...

I just took this loan out recently after graduating OCS. 25K at an APR of 2.99%, payments of $449, as mentioned above. It makes sense to spread the whole thing over any debt you have, which most likely has a higher interest rate. Navy Fed does offer something similar, but I was told over the...

Great stuff, thanks for sharing

If you want it, go for it no matter what anyone says. I have a very similar background (MA IR, speak Italian and Spanish, internship w State Dept in DC, 54 OAR) and was selected IWO last August. Not to say anything is guaranteed, but you'll never know if you don't try. Just my $0.02.

No confusion, I was referring to the orders to go to OCS, not any afterwards, and not the FS. They may be different from those we receive later, but as you say, we need to have these orders when reporting to Newport, which is the OP's issue.

I had the same issue, so I called my recruiter last week about it - not sure if she had forgotten or what, but she then contacted another office, who contacted me directly the same day. They sent a PDF as well as overnighted a hard copy of the original, which is what we need to bring on April 6...

Are boxer briefs permitted? Everything I've read says just briefs.

Can anyone confirm the projected date for the graduation ceremony of this class? This link says the last day would be June 27, is this the day the ceremony would be held? http://www.recruitingcommand.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/FY-14-OCS-Class-Dates.pdf

Hey guys I'll be there April 6, looking forward to meeting everyone and getting going. I'm sure April will be here before we know it.

I was pro-rec IWO with you guys in Sept, put my availability as asap, but got an April OCS date... I requested a sooner one, but it has taken so long to get back that I'm assuming I'm just going to have to wait (not a problem, just anxious to go). Is this an indication of how full the field is?

Agreed. I'm not in the Navy yet, so I can't speak from experience, but I've had to deal with some pretty terrible civilian bosses and I just don't buy the "don't join the military because you will get ragged on by a jerk officer who wants to destroy you" argument, because you can find the same...