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Sidearms for Naval Aviators

lmnop

Active Member
The trigger action makes it a POS...firstly, because the first shot is inconsistent with the rest. Secondly, because you have no resistance until the last millimeter or so when the gun will actually shoot (except the first shot).

Gun sucks.

The first shot is going to be different from the remainder for every DA/SA gun, regardless of manufacturer.

The thing that irks me about the M9 is the number locking block failures I've seen. You're already having a pretty sh*tty day if you have to go to your pistol, it'd be nice to have faith that the thing was going to work for more than one shot.
 

jtmedli

Well-Known Member
pilot
Lets take that one step further.....why put yourself in a position to get shot down, join the chair force and fly UAV's!

On a related note, I wouldn't be surprised to hear if they still spend training money on sending their UAV guys to SERE.....

You've got to be kidding me? Really? SERE?
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
Their UAV guys are all rated pilots anyway. UAV would be a billet, not their only aircraft. Fine to make fun of the Air Force, but do it with your facts in order.

Just this week I met a USAF pilot who figured he saw the writing on the wall for a UAV draft... he gladly jumped on early rotation to training command as an instructor pilot because that would guarantee staying in the cockpit for at least the next few years.

So yeah, I think the chance is out there. Probably a few paths and possibilities to do a tour as a UAV operator.

Anecdote #2, a good friend of mine a few years back had been a UAV det OIC in the mid 1990s. That happened after a successful sea tour as a Navy helo pilot and he returned to the cockpit after the UAV tour.
 

BACONATOR

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Just this week I met a USAF pilot who figured he saw the writing on the wall for a UAV draft... he gladly jumped on early rotation to training command as an instructor pilot because that would guarantee staying in the cockpit for at least the next few years.

So yeah, I think the chance is out there. Probably a few paths and possibilities to do a tour as a UAV operator.

Anecdote #2, a good friend of mine a few years back had been a UAV det OIC in the mid 1990s. That happened after a successful sea tour as a Navy helo pilot and he returned to the cockpit after the UAV tour.

What I've "heard" (take THAT for what it's worth) is that UAV slots are often times bargaining chips like IAs are in the Navy. Bargain with the detailer to do a UAV tour with orders to F-16's on the back end. Could be completely false, but the logic is there...
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
pilot
Contributor
That's how it used to be for a lot of the guys coming out of 38s, but since the demand for UAV pilots has increased, there aren't any guarantees for the guys coming out of UPT right now. Taking a FAIP/RC-12 slot is not the kiss of death guys used to try to avoid.
 

Bevo16

Registered User
pilot
If someone had a set of orders right now for me to go and sit in front of a computer and fly a UAV around Whereverastan and look for bad guys and blow shit up with HellFire, I would be on that paper like a chicken on a June bug.
 

Bonko

Final Select SNA (Sept 13th)
Just to clear the air: there are no small arms quals at OCS. The only thing you'll learn re: firearms is how to play with a non-functional rifle.

So if you don't qual at OCS, then when do you qual and get issued your gun? :confused:
 
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