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Sidearms for Naval Aviators

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by acwildcat, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. Treetop Flyer

    Treetop Flyer Well-Known Member None

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    I'd rather have something and not need it then try to find excuses not to bring a weapon with me on a combat sortie. Having it and not needing it is better than needing it and not having it. Maybe don't load expendables either since "what are the odds, right?" They don't weigh much at all or take up much space. At the very least, they will be more comfortable and proficient with their assigned firearms.

    Perhaps this can get merged into the newest "differences between Navy and Marines" thread.
     
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  2. sevenhelmet

    sevenhelmet Did I miss a step? None

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    Shooting a shark. But I guess you're right, I'm such a badass that I could just punch the shark. :cool:
     
  3. Randy Daytona

    Randy Daytona I want rock n roll - yes I do. Super Moderator None

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    Not if the shark shoots you first - with a freakin' laser.

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  4. RobLyman

    RobLyman - hawk Pilot None None

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    At first I was going to give a thumbs up to this because we experience a steep learning curve for new guys transitioning from CONUS to carry-a-weapon-everywhere-you-go land. Then I suddenly decided what a stupid idea that is for those of us who have done this several times before. I do NOT want to check out weapons and ammo, clean weapons, inventory weapons, etc..now just so newbs have an easier transition.

    Unlike my previous one, this past deployment I spent most of my time without a weapon. On the few occasions I had to kit up to fly, my newb copilot was like Francis on the movie Stripes.

    PI with a grin on his face: "All I know now is I get to kill someone."
    Me: "Lighten up Francis."

    Nothing says SUCK like 120+ temp with full body armor, M9, M4, flight gear with survival equipment and ammo, and no AC in the aircraft. FWIW, we did not carry when we went out over the water.
     
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  5. sevenhelmet

    sevenhelmet Did I miss a step? None

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    Sharks with laser beams! They're coming, fellas. Trust me. I just got back from the NARG last week.
     
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  6. Gonzo08

    Gonzo08 1. Gangbar Off None

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    Went to the Growler NARG 2 weeks ago. Can confirm: Sharks with laser beams incoming.
     
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  7. rotorhead1871

    rotorhead1871 UH-1N.....NAS Agana, Guam....circa 1975

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    why wait for them to be issued.....I think you can carry your personal side arm.
     
  8. Brett327

    Brett327 Well-Known Member Super Moderator None Contributor

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    False, for at least the last 30 years.
     
  9. ChuckMK23

    ChuckMK23 Former H-46 Driver None

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    Verboten - puts the whole concept of legitimate use of force, in a big picture at risk. No, good order and discipline means no personal weapons.
     
  10. RadicalDude

    RadicalDude Social Justice Warlord None Contributor

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    In my experience, CVWs dread allowing their tactical aircrew to carry sidearms. We had to have our mags bagged and it was forbidden to kid the weapon prior to putting it in the pouch.

    Real fucking tactical. Let me rip my duct-taped magazine open and try to load my weapon with a broken arm in the desert.
     
  11. RadicalDude

    RadicalDude Social Justice Warlord None Contributor

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    I think it's all cause some CAG did a real life desk pop.
     
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  12. Uncle Fester

    Uncle Fester Robot Pimp Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Truth. I was on that cruise. The next Follies was awesome.
     
  13. sevenhelmet

    sevenhelmet Did I miss a step? None

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    And to this day, we have to carry our magazines in a MAF bag. Talk about an overreaction.
     
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  14. RobLyman

    RobLyman - hawk Pilot None None

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    Just to show that the Navy isn't the only service with issues:

    On a previous deployment we had a VBIED set off at the gate to our FOB. The IDF alarm went off and we all scrambled to the bunkers. Also hearing small arms fire near the gate, those who didn't have their weapons cautiously rotated back to get their body armor and weapons. Ninety minutes into the "event", somewhere around 2300, I look over at the PI next to me. He was resting his chin on the barrel of his M4 with a full mag inserted. Thank God he had his kevlar and body armor on! LOL
     

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