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Flight Suits and NWUs?
- Thread starter FLGUY
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I think it's the thing you put on after declaring an emergency during the deadly 3-engined approach.
I understand that it's mostly common sense rules, and uniform regs as far as flight suits are concerned are largely organization/squadron dependent, but had a quick question regarding the colors.
I'm currently in the market for a new EDC pack/flight backpack. Big Navy regulations say that backpacks can only be Black or Type III pattern.
I'd like to get a coyote or olive colored pack rather than a black one considering we have flight gear that matches either color.
Has anyone run into any issues regarding this or do we just assume it doesn't apply?
I'm currently in the market for a new EDC pack/flight backpack. Big Navy regulations say that backpacks can only be Black or Type III pattern.
I'd like to get a coyote or olive colored pack rather than a black one considering we have flight gear that matches either color.
Has anyone run into any issues regarding this or do we just assume it doesn't apply?
It's important to you that your backpack is a matching color to your flight suit? ?
I'm not really a prig when it comes to letter of the law uniform issues, but you know there's going to be a CPO or two that will take great delight in telling you that you're AFU. Why invite that kind of drama into your life?
Just keep in mind...the last time a military put fashion over function, our grandparents kicked their asses all the way across Europe.
I mean, it's not super important. But if there's anything i've learned about wanting to use civilian stuff in uniform, it's that optics are important to those uniform prigs as you put it. If it's the same color as issued stuff, I feel like the less people will ask questions, considering there's no actual reg for flight gear.
Also remember that AWx3 (or any enlisted bubba) can't nod and smile when Master Chief calls them on uniform infractions. I'm not a hardliner (see Red Wing thread), but generally you shouldn't put yourself in a place where you're getting away with something just because you're an officer and no one senior to you is calling you out on it. It erodes trust.
GroundPounder
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Hugo Boss is still in business, but without government contracts.
I work with a young AF O-5 HH-60G Pave Hawk guy and he is all about bags / packs from these guys: https://specops.us/backpacks.html#spec-ops
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I didn't know that was a thing. I can't remember where you're headed, but I've seen all matter of colors of packs on the flight line. Coyote, black, gray, ranger green, etc. It's been a non-issue.
For a pack to wear in the parking lot or around the squadron spaces, then yeah, I'd probably be more careful for the reasons @IKE mentioned. That said, I rarely found a need to have a bag when going to work except for maybe carrying my NATOPS if I had a check ride coming up. And even then...Though I don't ride a motorcycle.
If we're in a spot where the goat locker is pushing the ready room around, you have more serious problems, because your XO is a coward. No, "aviation culture" isn't an excuse for looking like a bag of ass, but if Master Chief is being unreasonably petty about gigging folks on their uniforms, then there are people in the front office who rank Master Chief, and can pull him/her aside for recalibration.
I'd argue you don't want the same bag you take to the plane be the one that you take in and out of the squadron? I wanted pens, loose change, pubs, sometimes a laptop, extra clothes, and all matter of junk in my black backpack I'd bring from home. My flight bag (tan camelbak) was much more sanitized with minimal gear that I could keep track of.
Meh... there's a balance to be struck. Ultimately, Officers should be setting the example. Where I've seen this go awry is when certain CPOs don't fully understand the uniform regs in the first place. Flight suits are an anomaly.
My favorite is white socks with the flight suit. Had some Chiefs damn near have a stroke when they saw me wearing them. One was being almost disrespectful to the point I made him pull it up on the computer in front of everyone. He quickly became very apologetic.
Kids these days.
