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DCO IP/IW Training

Sculpin

Active Member
#46
You are protected by USERRA. This is a good resource:

https://www.esgr.mil/About-ESGR/Who-is-ESGR
Thank you sir. I know about the USERRA. I'm just speculating if my employer at some point in the future could affect me in a subtle manner that I wouldn't have the proof to make a legal case out of. I would expect it, as few employers would be very happy about losing an employee for a year or more. People already react badly to women taking maternity leave in my company.
 

Hair Warrior

JO 1835
Contributor
#47
Thank you sir. I know about the USERRA. I'm just speculating if my employer at some point in the future could affect me in a subtle manner that I wouldn't have the proof to make a legal case out of. I would expect it, as few employers would be very happy about losing an employee for a year or more. People already react badly to women taking maternity leave in my company.
1. That's illegal.
2. If it still happens, vote with your feet - go somewhere you feel valued.

My $0.02, if you are still concerned, check out larger companies where each employee is just a small fish in a big pond and can be gap-filled easily, and/or defense contractors who would not dare harm their reputation with military/veterans.
 

Sculpin

Active Member
#48
1. That's illegal.
2. If it still happens, vote with your feet - go somewhere you feel valued.

My $0.02, if you are still concerned, check out larger companies where each employee is just a small fish in a big pond and can be gap-filled easily, and/or defense contractors who would not dare harm their reputation with military/veterans.
I'm at a huge international corporation. :) However, at the team/department level especially if you're decent at what you do, you're a big fish in a small pond though, and that's where I'll be affected.

What you state is exactly my plan if I eventually get laid off (we have lots of those so I'm expecting it will happen to me at some point). I'll just go into the defense industry. Or even SPAWAR which is part of the Navy, and then what? The Navy is going to be pissed at me for getting mobilized by the Navy? :rolleyes:
 
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Hail_HYDRA!

DCO_IWC_Select
#50
Then you would be a govvie and would be untouchable, pretty much. Many, many people in the Reserve are double-dippers: work for the govt and are in the Reserve.
Yeah, oil and gas companies tend to pay the difference in your salary for a whole year. At least that was the case when I was in the industry. I believe as a govie they cover something like 240 hours or six weeks. That's what a reservist on the job told me at least. When that becomes my problem (or more so benefit) I'll let you guys know.
 
#54
I fit the program authorization in the area of training/curriculum but if the main factory is the HR certs etc, im out. I could get one I guess. I really enjoy being the training officer with my current unit!
 

RUFiO181

Making Recruiting Great Again
#55
Thats hilarious!

Is the HR community interested in people with a training/curriculum career background or pretty much only classic HR degrees and certs?
I fit the program authorization in the area of training/curriculum but if the main factory is the HR certs etc, im out. I could get one I guess. I really enjoy being the training officer with my current unit!
HR cert is a must. Also unless you’re an HR director or some sort of senior HR position don’t bother applying.
 

Sculpin

Active Member
#56
I fit the program authorization in the area of training/curriculum but if the main factory is the HR certs etc, im out. I could get one I guess. I really enjoy being the training officer with my current unit!
For DCO, treat the PA as qualifications just to be able to apply (though there are exceptions, myself being one). Beyond that, it's overly competitive to be able to get into anything. Heck, even OCS is brutally competitive.

Here's a nice NRC spreadsheet from 2016 about what's competitive. At least in terms of GPA and test scores and such. There's lots of "soft" points that can build your application a bit like community service.
 
#57
Yeah, oil and gas companies tend to pay the difference in your salary for a whole year. At least that was the case when I was in the industry. I believe as a govie they cover something like 240 hours or six weeks. That's what a reservist on the job told me at least. When that becomes my problem (or more so benefit) I'll let you guys know.
This is true. I work in that industry and we pay the difference between our salary and what the Navy pays for up to 12 months while mobilized/deployed. Basically keeps my income whole so I'm not making less while mobilized/deployed. Many will also pay for any time away from work while on military orders (AT/ADT) and DWE (I do 3 day weekends twice a quarter).
 
#58
A question for the Motley Crew - I see in some forums comments being made that IP Basic is a PCS move, however when I read up on policy I see PCS is for anything over 180 days. When I look in CANTRAC I don't see anything hit that mark for IP basic (the course I am looking at is 144 days) Is there a reference I can take a look at that gives amplifying guidance? Is there context that I am missing somewhere?
 

bubblehead

Registered Member
Contributor
#59
A question for the Motley Crew - I see in some forums comments being made that IP Basic is a PCS move, however when I read up on policy I see PCS is for anything over 180 days. When I look in CANTRAC I don't see anything hit that mark for IP basic (the course I am looking at is 144 days) Is there a reference I can take a look at that gives amplifying guidance? Is there context that I am missing somewhere?
Never heard of PCS orders for Reserve IP's who attend the Active Duty course, which all Reserve IP's are required to do.

From what I recall, you'll be on orders for the 22 odd weeks you are there and will get per diem, etc., etc.
 
#60
Just a heads up for this thread. I got my paper that shows training required for the IWC community. It was updated APR18. It states that all IWC will have to go to IWBC (3 weeks) and DIVOLC (1 week).
And the designator schools... which states that CWOBC is changing to 20 weeks in FY20

I have not confirmed this with my u it or training officer. Im just sharing what this paper says.
 
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