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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

Discussion in 'ASTB' started by edato, Jul 16, 2002.

  1. Ryan Stouffer

    Ryan Stouffer New Member

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    Took the test for the first time yesterday. Scored 58 8/9/9
    58 OAR | 8 AQR | 9 PFAR | 9 FOFAR |

    Math Skills Test (MST): KNOW ALL YOUR RULES OF EXPONENTS. Numbers to fractional exponents and negative exponents. Polynomials. Lots of distance equals rate x time style problems. Mostly algebra and precalculus concepts. Didn't see logarithms but studying them helped me anyways. Some probability. Those average type problems where if a guy scores x points over some amount of games and doesn't score at all in his next few games, how many points does he need to score to average some higher amount of points. Lots of percentages, and taking percentages of percentages, or fractions of fractions. It came in handy sometimes to use the answer choices to check my answer. I was able to calculate some percentages quickly, like say, whats 25% of 500, by thinking, okay, 10% of 500 is just 50, so 50 x 2 is 100, plus half of 50 is 25 is 125. 125 is 25% of 500. I don't know if that's a common thing that everyone does but it sure helps me calculate numbers more quickly.

    Reading Comprehension Test (RCT): Like everyone in this thread has said. Long, boring Navy jargon. Tough to read without falling asleep. ELIMINATE INCORRECT CHOICES TO HELP YOU DECIDE. Seriously.

    Mechanical Comprehension Test (MCT): I finished this section with 10 seconds to spare. Know simple machines. Didn't get asked about pulleys or gears, but there was some Power equation and levers. Lots of strings connected to blocks of varying weight. One mechanical advantage. Lots of conceptual stuff that I unfortunately do not remember. Some really off-the-wall stuff that I just had to use logic to figure out. There was one about a balloon floating up to higher altitude, and it asked what happened to the volume of air inside the balloon as it floated higher in the sky. Don't even remember what I answered. Know the difference between a period and a group on the periodic table, AND KNOW ABOUT VALENCE ELECTRONS. I want to say I had 3 questions that in some context concerned the movement of electrons, or the number of valence electrons.

    Aviation and Nautical Information Test (ANIT): This is what you can study for. The private pilot's handbook and the FAR/AIM are your friend. Know each and every part of an airplane and what they do. Know the terms for different parts and areas on a ship. Know your runway lights, light gun signals, and shipboard lights. Know that Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier in the Bell X-1. Know current AND past naval aircraft. I was given lists of aircraft and asked which one was say, a dive bomber, or which was an interceptor. You can absolutely crush this by studying alone and there's no excuse for not doing well here, in my opinion.

    Naval Aviation Trait Facet Inventory (NATFI): I won't waste anyone's time saying what's already been said a thousand times over in this very thread.

    Performance Based Measures Battery (PBM): I'll repeat here what has been said to me because it was such vital advice.
    1.Use the flashcards floating around here to familiarize yourself with the UAV section. Be able to do it fast and 100% it every time. Draw. The. Compass. Do it.
    2. Lean towards the ear you are instructed to react to.
    3. Write down the emergency procedures from the instructions so you can refer to them during the emergency. Just like an actual pilot's emergency checklist, right? Works for them, works for us.
    4. Most importantly though: DON'T GET FRUSTRATED. Remember that it is a computer game that was designed to make you feel like you suck. Your mindset should be aggressive. Treat it like you're actually trying to shoot down an adversary. This isn't something everyone will have access to, but playing flight simulator games I feel helped me out a lot here. I actually found the multitasking quite fun. Additionally, if any of you have Starcraft II sitting around, I can't think of a better way to force yourself to learn to multitask. I attribute some of my success to that, as well.

    I'm not going to waste time talking about the BIRV either.

    Miscellaneous Tips: I received from someone else and took to heart:
    -Bring water and trail mix. You're going to be nervous and that uses energy that your brain needs.
    -Do some pushups between sections to work off any nervous energy.
    -Don't be phased if you run out of time. The scoring algorithm for the test is proprietary so we can only guess what matters more: speed, accuracy, or difficulty of the question?
    -Before I took the test, I was expecting to do well. During the test, I had no idea how I was performing. After the test, I was stunned that I did as well as I did. Moral of the story is do your best, keep trying, and trust yourself even if you're not sure how it's going overall.
    -The more you do to prepare and familiarize yourself with what you'll encounter, the easier it will be to walk into the test with the attitude you need -- "I'm going to own this."
    -Today is your day and if you don't like something about your testing center's conditions, do something about it! Adjust the controls to where you want them on the desk. If the chair is too low, ask for something to sit on. If it's too high, ask for a different chair. Make sure you have a mouse for the compass rotation -- and honestly for the OAR too because who needs a misclick? My testing center was noisy and I considered asking during a break for the people right outside the door shooting the snot to be asked to take it elsewhere. In the end I didn't, but that doesn't mean it's not an option!

    For my personal studying:
    -I went through THIS ENTIRE THREAD. Yes, quite literally every page. This was BY FAR the most helpful thing. I printed off study guides and took them to my university's tutoring center. I did every problem I could get my hands on until I was sure that I had it down. Took me a couple weeks. Yeah.
    -Barron's was okay. It was easier than what I actually saw on the test but was a good introduction to what was coming. I would recommend it.
    -All the other books people recommended to get were actually kind of bad. The study guides posted around here made by members of the Airwarriors forum were infinitely more valuable than any book I bought. You, however, are not me, and at the risk of sounding like an arrogant tool, may need more tutoring than even I did. I had the tremendous advantage of taking Calculus last semester, and Pre-Cal the semester before that, so some concepts were much more fresh for me. If you've been out of the game for awhile, you've got some serious studying to do.
    -Everywhere I went, I brought packets of ASTB practice. Every little bit of downtime I got, I was working through problems. I can't tell you how many hours I spent in the University library eating muffins and just poring over all the information I gathered in this thread and printed off. If you take away anything from my post at all, let it be that this was one hundred percent the most helpful thing I did. Not the muffins, though. In fact, I think those are probably going to cost me more time in the gym.

    I wish all the rest of my fellow hopefuls the best going forward. I cannot be more ecstatic to have scored the way I did. (I needed to, because my GPA is uh... a few corn dogs short of a picnic...)
    Anyways, best of luck to you all. I'm going to go binge watch some Netflix, eat a doughnut for the first time in a year, and ease my mind with some 80 proof holy water.
     
  2. Sar12

    Sar12 New Member

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    I used the ASTB-E secrets study guide: ASTB-E test review for the aviation selection test battery. I think you can just put that title into amazon. I believe the company who made it now has one that focuses just on the OAR which might be better if that's all you need to take. I just happened to order this book before I knew I just needed to take the OAR. It really has a great section on simple machines. It seems like simple machines showed up for other people a lot. I unfortunately only got one when I took the exam. I will say that if you didn't do well the first time it might be better if you also focus on math. I think the online materials and book helped me do really well on math and it was the only section I was able to finish. I ended up with an OAR of 58 in the end and I didn't finish the reading section or the mechanics section. I studied a little bit for about two months but really buckled down two weeks before. I graduated in May with a degree in Political Science so I can relate to not being strong in math and mechanics. Anyways, I hope this helps you.
     
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  3. Birdbrain

    Birdbrain New Member

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    Wow, congrats man! And thanks for posting all of that. With some motivation and giving my liver a break :D I know I can muster up a score like that too and hopefully snag SNA. I'll be calling my recruiter later today to set up a test date. Last time we talked he said the April board would really be pushing it and he recommended to wait for the next one, and that makes sense to me. It also gives me all the more time to prepare.

    Here's an overview of me

    Credentials
    Age: 21
    Sex: M
    GPA: 3.3
    (soon to be) BA in Economics with a minor in German
    HS sports: varsity shooting
    College sports: club rugby, intramural football
    Fraternity: senior member educator
    Consistently working since legally allowed
    Consistently doing community service
    Clean criminal record
    Medically healthy
    LORs to come but nothing finalized yet

    I've gone through some gouge on here as well as taking an example ASTB and here's what I think

    Concerned Areas
    Math: Math, other than geometry, has never been my strong suite. I wasn't a star student in HS math so I know I need to review my basic algebra, I just need to find a good book.
    Mechanical Comprehension: I took Accelerated Physics in HS senior year and did well but that was also the last time I took physics. I'll study up on that.
    Aviation and Nautical Information: I know the basics of ship and airplane parts and what they do, but this section seems to have gotten much more in depth according to recent posters with the ASTB-E(?).
    Physical fitness: This should be the most no-brainer part, but for me it's not going to be. I spent this last half year coming down from a lifting bulk that went on much longer than it should have i.e. I was a fat@$$. I've been doing running every week and I could get under a 10 min 1.5 mile but it would be a real bear. Curl ups are coming along ok, maxing out as fast as possible I can hit 45 but it needs improvement. Pushups...not so much. I really need to improve my pushups but I keep stalling at an embarrassingly low count. Does anyone have any pushups suggestions (besides "do more")?

    In short I'm getting pretty excited about this and I'm preparing to study my butt off. I'll continue to lurk for more gouge instead of asking the same tired old questions...no promises though
     
  4. DONOSAURU5REX

    DONOSAURU5REX New Member

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    Just took the ASTB-E today. I scored a 54/6/7/7.

    I used a lot of the gouge from this site and it helped quite a bit. I think the toughest part of the test for me was the Performance Based Measures Battery (PBM). This was mostly because of the initial learning curve. The practice it gives you before each section is hardly enough to get used to the controls, and the throttle and stick you use can vary depending on where you take it. I would recommend doing a flight simulator in order to prepare (really its the only way). However, AFTER taking the ASTB-E I think I could do much better on this portion. Simply doing it for the first time helps to adapt your body for the movements necessary to pass. That being said, WRITE DOWN THE EMERGENCY PROCEDURES. This isn't a recommendation. This is REQUIRED if you want to do well in that scenario. If anyone has any questions let me know!

    Overview:
    Current Navy E-6
    Clean Record
    Strong EVALS
    Age: 27
    GPA: 3.7
    Degree: BS in Management of Information Systems
    LOR: O-6 Navy Instructor, O-6 Commodore, O-5 CDR Ret., O-5 Aviator, College Professor
     
  5. George222

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    Heyo, took my ASTB-E today, 56 7/6/8. College senior graduating with a 3.3 in Political Science from a good school. Messed up the emergency procedures but I'm pretty sure I got all of the UAV questions correct. Don't want to be a bad example but my test prep basically consisted of practice tests and ANIT flash cards. Just curious if I'd be competitive for pilot/NFO, my recruiter says the Navy's hurting for pilots right now.
     
  6. DONOSAURU5REX

    DONOSAURU5REX New Member

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    Is your degree a BA or BS? Either way thats a pretty good ASTB score. Check here for some more specifics: https://www.airwarriors.com/community/index.php?threads/what-nrc-considers-competitive.41212/
     
  7. Brandon11911

    Brandon11911 New Member

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    OAR - 50
    GPA 2.8 From University of Georgia in Criminal Justice
    Selected for SWO

    Basically don't get discouraged by a low GPA. Mine is garbage. Study hard. Read all the books and take all the practice tests. Get a good score. You will get selected.
     
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  8. NavyOffRec

    NavyOffRec Well-Known Member

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    The OAR is a very very tiny part of selection, you were just plain lucky, there were many that were a pro N with better OAR and GPA than you. Take the lucky shot you were given and run with it.
     
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  9. Safashton

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    Just took ASTB and scored 56 7/8/7.

    Been studying for over a month for 3 to 4 hours a day or more. Despite the amount of studying I was still not confident with the math, and neglected alot of the other stuff.

    Math. I studied heavily on DRT, weighted averages, work together, basic order of operations and other random stuff. I saw only one DRT, and none if the rest I listed. No logs, no binary, no fractional exponents. Saw lots of rectangle perimeter with two times, base, blah, blah. I think i honestly knew 2 questions for sure out of the 15 I got. Rest were educated guesses. Test stopped with time on clock.

    Reading. Straight forward and painful reading. Ran out of time.

    Mechanical. Not a single thing I studied was on this. Thankfully only 3 choices. Not a single question, was I like "That's the answer for sure".

    Aviaton/Nautical. So random, lots I knew, some I guessed.

    PBM. Dot with the UAV was fairly simple with studying. I got all correct. I personally didn't need the compass on paper trick, and could answer in 2 to 3 seconds.

    Tracking. What the eff. Super annoying. My joystick felt using a cable machine. The inverted control was super awkward. The listening portion by itself I did great, the combined I Def effed a few up. Emergencies, just write it down.

    Big pointers, use official books. The gouges on here were riddled with errors or awkward ways of solving problems. I recommend reviewing them, see what types of problems, then study from more official sources.
     
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