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Navy H-60 Aircrewman killed . . . .

robav8r

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Anyone know how this could have happened, while on the ground, doing "Hot Seat" training ???
 

fc2spyguy

loving my warm and comfy 214 blanket
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HH-60H has a lower pylon for an external aux tank on the fuselage like the R. I knew the crewman and will not comment further. You can actually see the tank on that photo on the port side.
 

Griz882

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Do 60Hs even have an upper pylon?
Sorry, I have never the flown the 60 so I am likely using the wrong terminology.

By “upper pylon” I mean this:

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Which in turn I imagine the “lower pylon” to be something like this:

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RedFive

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External Weapons Stores (EWS), more commonly referred to as "Wings." Sierra only has the short stubby ones.

Don't know what the Romeos or Fox/Hotel call theirs, but due to the structural differences between the Sierra (an Army Blackhawk painted gray) and every other type of Navy helo, theirs are mounted low on the aircraft. No option to have both....except maybe on the super secret squirrel osama blackhawk.
 

Griz882

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External Weapons Stores (EWS), more commonly referred to as "Wings." Sierra only has the short stubby ones.

Don't know what the Romeos or Fox/Hotel call theirs, but due to the structural differences between the Sierra (an Army Blackhawk painted gray) and every other type of Navy helo, theirs are mounted low on the aircraft. No option to have both....except maybe on the super secret squirrel osama blackhawk.
Check. I was not clear on the capabilities of each type. I have been looking for the secret squirrel model but have yet to see one.
 

IKE

Nerd Whirler
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Sorry to hear about this and won't speculate, but some corrections to the Navy Crimes article:

1. The H-60B/F/H/R aux tank weighs ~200 lb empty and carries no more than ~800 lb of fuel. (So not 1500 lb total - that'd be a 60S internal, non-jettisonable tank.)

2. I wouldn't put it past NT to mistake a hot seat for "hot seat training." I've never trained for hot seats other than actually executing one.
 

Brett327

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My take is that we always refer to CONUS flights as "routine training flights" in PAO releases. I think they just incorrectly inferred hot seat training.
 

RobLyman

- hawk Pilot
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UH/HH-60M Checklist
Post Landing...
5. STORES JETTISON switch - OFF

Shutdown...
7. Ejector rack locking levers - Locked.

Our tanks are 200 gallons and each weigh approximately 600 lbs empty. We have the pylons that mount to the upper part of the fuselage (upper picture on griz882's post) and the tanks are still pretty low and pretty much impossible to walk under. I saw the article day before yesterday and scratched my head on how it could have happened.

It's a risky business we engage in. Even for something as mundane as a crew swap.
 

robav8r

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WTF was he doing UNDER the Aux tank though? I have over 2500 hours in 60’s, not once did we ever have the need to go under one. Weird . . . . .
 
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