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Medical Condition "Bible"

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Wildcat15

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Has anyone ever had first hand experience with, or known anyone with a congenital condition known as a UPJ obstruction? I had laparoscopic surgery to rectify that issue in college a couple of years ago. It's technically an automatic DQ from all branches of the military but on this website ( http://www.asams.org/guidelines/Completed/NEW Congenital Urinary Anomalies.htm ), under Congenital Obstruction of the Ureteropelvic Junction, it says there has been at least some success with waiver applicants. Luckily I wasn't diagnosed with an underlying condition, otherwise I'm almost positive the military would be a definitive "no". It came about in college during a cross country because of excessive hydration (The Sonoran desert can do that to you during the Fall). Unfortunately the Navy hasn't published any of their waiver information for this particular condition as I'm sure it's not a very common issue among SNA/SNFO applicants or any other designation for that matter. But, I figured I would ask anyways in the off chance somebody has encountered a similar dilemma.
 
Three strange SNA NPQ's I saw at OCS:

1. Negative ear pressure/hearing loss. This for myself, despite my hearing loss being so mild that its well within standards. The negative ear pressure is a quick fix, but they didn't even bother.
2. Bicuspid heart valve. The guy was the highest performing candidate, physically, and he broke the stress test machine at the hospital because his heart was so strong. Still, NPQ.
3. Celiac's disease. Yes, apparently a gluten allergy is a non-waiverable medical issue for flight. Even though the guy has never once shown any symptoms in his entire life.

You can't have a medical bible, because they can find a reason to NPQ anybody.
 

exNavyOffRec

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Three strange SNA NPQ's I saw at OCS:

1. Negative ear pressure/hearing loss. This for myself, despite my hearing loss being so mild that its well within standards. The negative ear pressure is a quick fix, but they didn't even bother.
2. Bicuspid heart valve. The guy was the highest performing candidate, physically, and he broke the stress test machine at the hospital because his heart was so strong. Still, NPQ.
3. Celiac's disease. Yes, apparently a gluten allergy is a non-waiverable medical issue for flight. Even though the guy has never once shown any symptoms in his entire life.

You can't have a medical bible, because they can find a reason to NPQ anybody.

I worked with a NA who was diagnosed with Celiac's, he was told he could keep flying but would not be deployable, hard to have a career when you can only fly in the the US, he redesignated.
 

koliver

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I just had an eye exam and was told that I am 20/70 and correctable to 20/20. I called my recruiter to ask if I should get lasik and she said that I should be fine if I am correctable to 20/20. She seemed pretty certain that it wouldn't be an issue for applying for SNA. She also told me to wait and see what MEPS has to say. Is this the right information? I am just looking for a second opinion because even if I am cleared by MEPS I do not want to have issues with NAMI once I am at OCS.
 

koliver

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So do I have to wait until I go to MEPS for them to reiterate that I need to get lasik? Or can I get it before I even go to MEPS?
 

Hopeful Hoya

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So do I have to wait until I go to MEPS for them to reiterate that I need to get lasik? Or can I get it before I even go to MEPS?

You can get it before, and then you'll forward all of the pre and post-op documentation to MEPS before they schedule you for an appointment. Might as well start the LASIK process now because the wait to go to MEPS can reach a month or more, no sense waiting twice before and after you get the surgery done.
 

koliver

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Thanks for the info Hopeful Hoya. Do I have to wait until all the post-op checkups are complete or could I go to MEPS within 6 months of having the surgery?
 

Hopeful Hoya

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Thanks for the info Hopeful Hoya. Do I have to wait until all the post-op checkups are complete or could I go to MEPS within 6 months of having the surgery?

You should get a checkup at 6 months, and after you get this done you can forward all the documentation to MEPS, who will get back to you after they review it to schedule a physical.
 
Good afternoon guys. So I thought I was previously cleared for SNA/SNFO however N3M came back requiring a depth perception exam for a waiver. I can't pass the MVT at MEPS however I can have passed the stereo booklet with 40 sec of arch as recently as late October. The letter for the waiver says "or by a military eye specialist", what exactly is considered a "military eye specialist"? My recruiter doesn't seem too clear or positive on what exactly can be considered a military eye specialist as well. I was going to join an ROTC program and did DODMERB physical in which we did the eye exam at a local Nationwide Vision, would this place be considered to have a military eye specialist since they do all the ROTC exams? My recruiter seems to think so but I'm a little hesitant, just want to make sure before I shell out the money for an we exam at this place. I was hoping someone with experience or one of the recruiters with experience could help.
 

exNavyOffRec

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Good afternoon guys. So I thought I was previously cleared for SNA/SNFO however N3M came back requiring a depth perception exam for a waiver. I can't pass the MVT at MEPS however I can have passed the stereo booklet with 40 sec of arch as recently as late October. The letter for the waiver says "or by a military eye specialist", what exactly is considered a "military eye specialist"? My recruiter doesn't seem too clear or positive on what exactly can be considered a military eye specialist as well. I was going to join an ROTC program and did DODMERB physical in which we did the eye exam at a local Nationwide Vision, would this place be considered to have a military eye specialist since they do all the ROTC exams? My recruiter seems to think so but I'm a little hesitant, just want to make sure before I shell out the money for an we exam at this place. I was hoping someone with experience or one of the recruiters with experience could help.

@RUFiO181 has said it several times, N3M needs the exam to be from a MEPS or a MTF (such as a base clinic)

If I remember right a DODMERB exam is an exam conducted by a doctor contracted by DODMERB, so they aren't necessarily military doctors unless the exam is at a MTF for say a military dependent.
 
@RUFiO181 has said it several times, N3M needs the exam to be from a MEPS or a MTF (such as a base clinic)

If I remember right a DODMERB exam is an exam conducted by a doctor contracted by DODMERB, so they aren't necessarily military doctors unless the exam is at a MTF for say a military dependent.

Yes Sir, DODMERB is contracted out, in this case to Nationwide vision. When I contacted them to ask if they are considered a military eye specialist they say they are. I'm still suspicious based off everything I've read. My recruiter seems to be at a loss and is suggesting that Nationwide vision place or the VA(I'm prior service) however when I contacted the VA they said they contract out their eye exams as well. Do you or anyone have any experience with scheduling one of these exams with a military eye specialist other than at MEPS where they only have MVT?
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

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Yes Sir, DODMERB is contracted out, in this case to Nationwide vision. When I contacted them to ask if they are considered a military eye specialist they say they are. I'm still suspicious based off everything I've read. My recruiter seems to be at a loss and is suggesting that Nationwide vision place or the VA(I'm prior service) however when I contacted the VA they said they contract out their eye exams as well. Do you or anyone have any experience with scheduling one of these exams with a military eye specialist other than at MEPS where they only have MVT?

Pretty sure N3M won't accept anything other than a military clinic or MEPS. No contracted eye exams or anything.
 
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