Fair enough, so are you thinking it's Turkish -29s or another aircraft altogether?
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NEWS Russia building barracks at Syrian airport
- Thread starter nittany03
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I presume you mean Syrian MiG-29's but it/they could have been any one of the flavor of Sukhois Russia has in-country. If NATO is complaining about the violation I assume there is something to it but we will have to wait on the details, if they ever come out.
When it comes to 'incidents like this or other 'breaking news' it often takes at least a day and sometimes more to get a better picture of what is going on.
Seems that the initial reports were incorrect: while it was a Syrian -29 that spiked the -16s, the aircraft that busted the border were a Russian SU-30 and SU-24.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_123392.htm
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_123392.htm
20 miles between USAF F-16's and Russian SU-34
http://theaviationist.com/2015/10/06/us-f-16s-vs-su-34-fullback-over-syria/
http://theaviationist.com/2015/10/06/us-f-16s-vs-su-34-fullback-over-syria/
Putin doesn't want any western presence in Syria and he will continue to press the issue with encounters like these. I may be full of shit, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians let loose a BVR shot counting on us not doing a damn thing about it except taking are marbles and going home.
Ummm yeah, not going to happen.
I hope that you are right, but I don't think it is that far fetched. Work the scenario. What would our acceptable options be, economic sanctions, a tsk tsk from the UN?
You are taking quite a few leaps of faith, that they would shoot in the first place and then we would do thing about it.
By shooting at us? That isn't testing policy, that is trying to start a war. Get a grip guys.
Georgia, Crimea, Ukraine, predicting all would have been leaps of faith. Putin is a Soviet thru and thru. He has stated on multiple occasions that there needs to be a check to American dominance since the end of the cold war and a resurgence of the Soviet Union is the answer. Those were countries, this would be a warplane, yes an American warplane, but he's seen no real consequences for his previous actions and I think that he will see how far he can go before he gets a wrist slap.
What policy? A war takes two (or more) to play, and we don't want to play.
None of those involved the U.S., they were opportunistic flailing by a weak power trying to prove it still has what remains of its long ago 'glory'. And they have paid a price for their Ukrainian adventures, with economic sanctions causing their economy to contract in the past year and no end in sight.
People who think Putin is some sort of masterful leader are doing nothing but falling for his propaganda. The fawning over him and his persona by some on the right is sickening and unseemly.