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Extended stays at the hold short for NAS Whidbey Growlers?

Flash

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We used to get an AN-224 (or maybe -225) into Miramar pretty regularly. Not sure if the crew was Russian, but it looked like a space station on final

AN-225. Owned and operated by a Ukrainian cargo airline.
 

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I never thought I'd say this, but I actually miss bouncing at The Rock.
 

CommodoreMid

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Our squadron has been up to NUW a bunch of times this IDRC. Haven't heard of anyone doing this, but it would make me chuckle.
 

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Um, is this the first time a 737-sized aircraft has ever landed at NUW, or is there something I just don't understand? I'm sure it's the latter, you understand…like maybe "the bigs" are supposed to land beyond the short-field gear, given all that reverse-thrust stuff? Inquiring minds want to know!
Nothing special. Just a running joke/accusation against P3 bubbas that up at Whidbey we are accused of knocking the arresting gear out of battery (on purpose or otherwise). Hence the homage to the P8 above, and wondering if the title of "king of knocking the arresting gear out of battery" has been passed.
 

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Nothing special. Just a running joke/accusation against P3 bubbas that up at Whidbey we are accused of knocking the arresting gear out of battery (on purpose or otherwise). Hence the homage to the P8 above, and wondering if the title of "king of knocking the arresting gear out of battery" has been passed.
My Jedi Master…with respect…still doesn't answer the question. WTF is it about the short-field gear that tires can't roll over it…or that "wide bodies" don't understand about landing beyond it? This does not appear (to your many masterless Ronin followers) to be "rocket science".
 

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With respect. In a large aircraft without a limitation requiring me to land past it. I will not leave runway behind me and accept a long landing. And will roll over it. Some aircraft are restricted from landing prior to it to avoid damage to the underside with the cable bouncing upwards and striking the aircraft.

I knocked the battery out in key west pretty spectacularly and ended up with a blown tire out of it. Turned out that the cable had a fray in the steel and sheathing and sliced into our tire. I talked with the airfield guys and they were of the opinion that landing on the cable or just before it can cause it to be brought out of battery with larger aircraft. Ie passage of the nose wheel striking it causes it to bounce up and the second hit by the main landing gear tires knocks it out. I honestly don't know. But they are theoretically designed where it shouldn't be a factor. The only place I ever heard any jokes or drama is up at Whidbey regarding it being knocked out of battery. Weird that you don't see the same at other fields, no?
 

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......The only place I ever heard any jokes or drama is up at Whidbey regarding it being knocked out of battery. Weird that you don't see the same at other fields, no?

The other two VP bases don't have TACAIR co-located so knocking the gear out isn't nearly as big a deal.
 

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The other two VP bases don't have TACAIR co-located so knocking the gear out isn't nearly as big a deal.
Have you seen all the jets at Jax over the last couple years? :)

What about al udeid and bagram? Lots of jets there. And with all the fat kid heavies moving around, the battery manages to stay in place.

Maybe it's all the rain and general shitty weather up there in the Pacific Northwest? ;)
 
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Renegade One

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I knocked the battery out in key west pretty spectacularly and ended up with a blown tire out of it. Turned out that the cable had a fray in the steel and sheathing and sliced into our tire. Blah…blah…blah.
Nothing learned there?
 

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Nothing learned there?
Yes. Two learning points.

1. Don't take on a student from VP10 at the last minute as a favor to their squadron.

2. Make sure that the squadron can't send a recovery bird and maintenance team before you start drinking on duval street. :)
 
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Flash

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Have you seen all the jets at Jax over the last couple years? :)

What about al udeid and bagram? Lots of jets there. And with all the fat kid heavies moving around, the battery manages to stay in place.

Maybe it's all the rain and general shirty weather up there in the Pacific Northwest? ;)

I do no know if you are joking or not.......:)

Anyways......in the dark ages when I last had the discomfort to park alongside VP birds when deployed there wasn't anywhere near the amount of bouncing by the Sky Pig of Doom on the road as there was at home. Not only that but the runways at the 'Deid and Bagram are a whole lot longer than the ones at Whidbey. As for the jets at Jax, you sure they just weren't waiting for new wings? ;)
 
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