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High Blood Pressure Help?

Brett327

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Sodium is number one like everyone before said.

One thing that is often over looked is vasodilators that can help bring your BP down over the long haul. If you have hypertension or high cholesterol this really isnt a fix but can help if you don't have those symptoms.

Caffeine is a vasodilator but raises HR so not good but try supplementing a daily vitamin with 1000mg L arginine x2 a day and healthy dose of Niacin. Just a thought, you can get that stuff pretty cheap at any drug store.

Not really a good (or legal) solution for aviators.

Brett
 

The Chief

Retired
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illegal?! vitamin B3 is illegal? L arginine is in asparagus and broccoli?! i'm lost ...

Tip: Do not mock those that know what they are talking about. :confused:

Just because something is legal for the general public to injest does not mean it is legal for an Aviator w/o permission of Flight Doc. The Flight Doc does not regulate - the Aviator does - with support from the Flight Doc.
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
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I don't understand how this is illegal or unsafe, please explain because I've been taking these in OVER THE COUNTER form from walgreens and CVS for 6 years along with a daily vitamin. Actually they are pretty darn cheap too.

I do realize that I do not know what the limitations are for aviators in so far as diet, if any. I do understand that prescription drugs that would lower BP like antihistamines or something along those lines might keep you from flying? How does a flight surgeon regulate what medications an aviator can take still fly etc? Kind of clueless about how that would work.

As an aviator you can't even take Motrin for a headache without a flight doc prescribing it. Self medicating is a no-no.
 

draad

Member
Paleolithic will help. Paleolithic with extremely limited nuts/seed and fruits is even better. Nuts and seeds have lots of sodium, and fruits have lots of fructose, which spikes insulin (which is one of the biggest goals of paleo-eat things with a low glycemic index and avoid spiking insulin), which contributes to high blood pressure.
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
So much bad gouge on this thread it is scary...
I have first hand experience with this problem and am currently on a hypertension waiver.
Go with the medically and scientifically approved and established methods. Unfortunately, genetics plays a huge part in hypertension.
Don't do self medication or fad diets. They are going to get you in trouble and don't read well in mishap reports.
If it continues to be a problem, just ride it out until wings and then you can explore various approved medications with your flight docs help. I am taking the minimum dose of lisinopril and it has made a huge difference in my readings.
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
Paleolithic will help. Paleolithic with extremely limited nuts/seed and fruits is even better. Nuts and seeds have lots of sodium, and fruits have lots of fructose, which spikes insulin (which is one of the biggest goals of paleo-eat things with a low glycemic index and avoid spiking insulin), which contributes to high blood pressure.
So just eat meat? Yeah, that will do wonders for your long term health.
10 years ago this whole paleo craze was called Atkins. How did that work out for everyone?

Yes, I know there are differences, but there is a reason that fad diets are fads...they don't work long term.
 

das

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There is also a lot of good gouge in this thread. Limiting sodium intake, good diet, exercise and weight management, tracking BP for reference, and working with your doctor on all of the above, are all proven ways to help with BP. Genetics does play a huge role for some people, some people aren't sodium-sensitive, and some people do need medication...but that doesn't always need to be the first resort, either.
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
There is also a lot of good gouge in this thread. Limiting sodium intake, good diet, exercise and weight management, tracking BP for reference, and working with your doctor on all of the above, are all proven ways to help with BP. Genetics does play a huge role for some people, some people aren't sodium-sensitive, and some people do need medication...but that doesn't always need to be the first resort, either.
Agreed with all of the above.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Super Moderator
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So just eat meat? Yeah, that will do wonders for your long term health.
10 years ago this whole paleo craze was called Atkins. How did that work out for everyone?

Yes, I know there are differences, but there is a reason that fad diets are fads...they don't work long term.

I worked with a 'special' Army Captain that was doing the paleo diet, he was not 'Green Beret special' but 'short bus special'. The best part about it was he would describe in detail how the paleo diet had affected his bowel movements. Pure awesome. After that no one else wanted to try it, just because of him.
 
There was an Approach article specifically addressing the paleo diet, in which the pilot on this diet got dizzy and weak feeling in flight.
 

MasterBates

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I never had problems with being dizzy in flight when the Nutritionist at Portsmouth put me on paleo due to diverticulitis.

My blood pressure also dropped, but I was under a doctor's care for that diet.

I felt pretty damn good on it, but trying to stay on it underway is hard, as FFV plays a huge part in it.

It was not like Atkins in that it was carb restrictions. Just more of a "no overly processed crap and grains" thing.

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e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
The crossfit/paleo crowd that I have seen have eaten a ridiculous amount of meat in their diet. I understand the whole non processed thing and I agree that stuff should be limited in the diet. I just see a lot of variations lately like the "low carb paleo" diet and other silly things. Sure, if a nutritiounist is monitoring you, then obviously that is legit.
 

MasterBates

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Yeah.. My macronutrient profile was a bit protein heavy, but nothing like Atkins. Probably about 1/2-2/3 of my calories from meat/dairy, and the rest from veggies.

I ate a lot of salads with meat on them, or veggies with meat vice potatoes or rice. Pasta, cereal and breads are the devil as far as my gut is concerned.. Had to eat that way either living on the road, on a boat, or on an oil rig though.
 
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