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International Burn a Qu'ran Day
- Thread starter usmarinemike
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sure.
I get shit on here for expressing an opinion and asked to provide some basis for such "speculation".
I did, twice now, with internationally reputable sources. The article from the NYT cites both American and Afghan sources and is pretty clear - even Squorch probably recognizes the BBC and NYT...
Of course the US is not going to turn these individuals over to NATO or the Afghan "government" - but I'm unsure of what faces them back stateside within UCMJ.
sodajones
Combat Engineer
This is a true tragedy in every sense of the word. We do not do this. We kill the people who do these kinds of things.
In the muslim opinion, however, 1 aberrant US soldier kills 16 civilians = the US and every one of us are terrible people bent on raping, pillaging and plundering their nation. Taliban thugs throw acid in the faces of little girls going to school, set of suicide vests in a hospital, or whatever = a small group of aberrant muslims.
Fuck this double standard shit, time to leave these savages to figure it out for themselves. And as for the American who did this, if found guilty (or he confesses at the news seems to indicate he has), death penalty - we do not do this!
Guess that's not very PC of me...
In the muslim opinion, however, 1 aberrant US soldier kills 16 civilians = the US and every one of us are terrible people bent on raping, pillaging and plundering their nation. Taliban thugs throw acid in the faces of little girls going to school, set of suicide vests in a hospital, or whatever = a small group of aberrant muslims.
Fuck this double standard shit, time to leave these savages to figure it out for themselves. And as for the American who did this, if found guilty (or he confesses at the news seems to indicate he has), death penalty - we do not do this!
Guess that's not very PC of me...
He just got a lot more than 16 of his comrades killed over the next few months.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
Hey, if we don't execute the MAJ who shot up Ft Hood, why should this guy get the firing squad?
Precisely because that asshole SHOULD have gotten the firing squad. We fucked up on that one, let's not fuck this one away.
New Rule: You execute civilians = you get executed. You ambush and kill your own people = you get executed. You aid the enemy = you get executed.
oh wait, that's not a new rule...
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
Yeah, but we seem to have a lot of selective enforcement of it.
Who does more harm to us?
(former) MAJ Hassan, who did it premeditated
Wikileaks Asshat
(Insert Spy/Double Agent we did not execute here)
Whoever did this most recent act, who very well may have fucking snapped.
If he snapped, it may not be premeditated like the other three. It doesn't excuse his actions, but I direct more hate towards those who do premeditated shit, vice those who just snapped.
Who does more harm to us?
(former) MAJ Hassan, who did it premeditated
Wikileaks Asshat
(Insert Spy/Double Agent we did not execute here)
Whoever did this most recent act, who very well may have fucking snapped.
If he snapped, it may not be premeditated like the other three. It doesn't excuse his actions, but I direct more hate towards those who do premeditated shit, vice those who just snapped.
ugh. when will news organizations figure out that the comments section of their websites is just bad for their look?
Nation-building in Afghanistan was a bad idea from the get-go. We & GWB were correct to wipe-out the Taliban government in 2002, but we screwed the pooch in staying and then trying to create a stable, nationally-supported government. "Afghanistan" is just a name for a region of the world where warring tribes have murdered each other & foreign adventurers for thousands of years. It is a bitter shame that we have wasted so many american lives & dollars in pursuit of an unachievable goal. JMHO.
Fog,
Not saying your thoughts are wrong, but the Geneva Convention says if you remove a gov't, then you are responsbile for the population until a new gov't is installed.
I'll concede we made lots of errors, but in removing the Taliban, the gov't of Afghanistan, then as GEN Collin Powell eloquently stated; "you break it, you bought it".
So we had to do some nation building in order to install a new gov't.
But I totally agree that trying to make Afghanistan a democracy that craved a McDonald's and Starbucks on every corner is a bridge too far...
Not saying your thoughts are wrong, but the Geneva Convention says if you remove a gov't, then you are responsbile for the population until a new gov't is installed.
I'll concede we made lots of errors, but in removing the Taliban, the gov't of Afghanistan, then as GEN Collin Powell eloquently stated; "you break it, you bought it".
So we had to do some nation building in order to install a new gov't.
But I totally agree that trying to make Afghanistan a democracy that craved a McDonald's and Starbucks on every corner is a bridge too far...