OCONUS Leave After Commissioning

[cameron172]

I plan to commission from NROTC in late April and plan to take leave in July assuming my requested report date to Pensacola (Sept 20) is approved. I am hoping to go on a three-week mission trip to Israel with my church.

Will there be an issue getting my leave approved to a country that is on the State Department travel warnings list? Is there a DoD specific list of countries that are restricted for employee leave?

 

[Gatordev]

Yes. You need to coordinate with your admin. At a minimum, you'll need to do the OCONUS ATFP training and get a country clearance. Might as well start working it now.

 

[ea6bflyr]

Talk with your NROTC staff and start working it now.

 

[HAL Pilot]

I plan to commission from NROTC in late April and plan to take leave in July assuming my requested report date to Pensacola (Sept 20) is approved. I am hoping to go on a three-week mission trip to Israel with my church.

Will there be an issue getting my leave approved to a country that is on the State Department travel warnings list? Is there a DoD specific list of countries that are restricted for employee leave?

You won't have 3 weeks of accumulated leave by July. That is a lot of time to go into the hole, if your command will even approve that. You might want to rethink this so you have the ability to take leave for unforeseen things in the future.

 

[cameron172]

Since I didn't want to risk my trip deposit on the command not approving the leave to Israel (LTs said "fat chance"), I changed it to a twelve day trip to Greece, assuming my report NLT date is approved.

 

[squorch2]

I'm a little bit amazed your command is letting you go negative on your leave balance. Assuming you commission on April 27 and leave July 6 for 12 days, you'll be 6 days in the hole when you come back...

 

[MasterBates]

I'm a little bit amazed your command is letting you go negative on your leave balance. Assuming you commission on April 27 and leave July 6 for 12 days, you'll be 6 days in the hole when you come back...

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[Brett327]

I'm a little bit amazed your command is letting you go negative on your leave balance. Assuming you commission on April 27 and leave July 6 for 12 days, you'll be 6 days in the hole when you come back...

That's pretty common in accessions. When I went to boot camp, the policy was to let everyone go in the hole for 14 days so they could go home and see mom & pop.

 

[MasterBates]

OCS only let us go 7 in the hole when I graduated. (yeah, not ROTC).

 

[Brett327]

Since I didn't want to risk my trip deposit on the command not approving the leave to Israel (LTs said "fat chance"), I changed it to a twelve day trip to Greece, assuming my report NLT date is approved.

Your command can't arbitrarily limit where you go on leave. Force protection considerations will apply for certain areas but there are ways to mitigate that risk. Our ships pull into Haifa for liberty.

Brett

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Your command can't arbitrarily limit where you go on leave. Force protection considerations will apply for certain areas but there are ways to mitigate that risk. Our ships pull into Haifa for liberty.

Brett

The foreign clearance guide should help him out.

 

[cameron172]

The foreign clearance guide should help him out.

Is a CAC required to see it?

Edit: I get stuck at the security certificate page when I go to https://www.fcg.pentagon.mil/

 

[Devil Duck]

Will the Navy be paying you a paycheck between commissioning in APR and reporting for school on 20 SEP? Or, will you be assigned to the Reserves pending being gained to active duty in SEP? If you're in a no-pay reserve status you shouldn't require a leave chit, unless you'll miss a reserve requirement (in that case you'd need approved absence from the event). However, if you're on active duty (e.g., Gold-bar recruiter at your university) you'll need the approval of the command to which you're administratively assigned. Don't know about the Navy, but can speak to the Army - it's very common for newly commission ROTC Os to spend up to 4-6 months in a no-pay reserve status between commissioning and the commencement of the officer basic school.

Whether on active duty or assigned to the reserves you'll need to complete AT/FP CONUS & OCONUS, probably SERE A&B and notify your security manager prior to departing.

 

[Jim123]

Is a CAC required to see it?

Edit: I get stuck at the security certificate page when I go to https://www.fcg.pentagon.mil/

Try clicking through the security certificate stuff. There should be a blurb about the online FCG being accessible only to .mil and .gov computers along with instructions for access for DoD personnel not covered by that (ie., your NROTC is probably under .edu).

Usually the FCG requirements are similar to the travel.state.gov advisories so checking travel.state.gov in the meantime might give you an idea what to expect. That's not all-inclusive and you'll still have to fulfill the FCG requirements (it's "directive in nature").

 

[Gatordev]

Will the Navy be paying you a paycheck between commissioning in APR and reporting for school on 20 SEP? Or, will you be assigned to the Reserves pending being gained to active duty in SEP? If you're in a no-pay reserve status you shouldn't require a leave chit, unless you'll miss a reserve requirement (in that case you'd need approved absence from the event). However, if you're on active duty (e.g., Gold-bar recruiter at your university) you'll need the approval of the command to which you're administratively assigned. Don't know about the Navy, but can speak to the Army - it's very common for newly commission ROTC Os to spend up to 4-6 months in a no-pay reserve status between commissioning and the commencement of the officer basic school.

Every so often, Navy ROTC does what you describe, but word on the street is this year, everyone goes active on day 1. This is usually how the Navy does it.