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a varsity move
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Pretty awesome.
On a side note, anytime I've heard "it was a pretty varsity move," the preceding words were something to the extent of "I was certain you f*cked it away..." Then to follow, "It's probably easier if you don't put yourself in that situation." Guess that applies here too!
On a side note, anytime I've heard "it was a pretty varsity move," the preceding words were something to the extent of "I was certain you f*cked it away..." Then to follow, "It's probably easier if you don't put yourself in that situation." Guess that applies here too!
If I was that RIO, I think I would have crapped myself.
I suppose desperate times do call for desperate measures. I don't know whether that was smart, ballsy, or just plain stupid; but whatever it was, it got the job done.
Insane.
Question, since I don't know much 'bout you fast-moving types: Would the HAL-9000s on today's birds let something like that happen?
In any event, not to derail this thread too much, but it reminds me of some other shenanigans that took place at Angels 1.5 (they're probably outside the ejection envelope at that altitue
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(I know the above video is a repost, but I'm too lazy this morning to find it.)
Question, since I don't know much 'bout you fast-moving types: Would the HAL-9000s on today's birds let something like that happen?
In any event, not to derail this thread too much, but it reminds me of some other shenanigans that took place at Angels 1.5 (they're probably outside the ejection envelope at that altitue
):(I know the above video is a repost, but I'm too lazy this morning to find it.)
I knew Mugs when he was in VF-142 & I in VA-146 on the '67 CONSTELLATION adventure. He was a unique, likeable character & talented Phantum driver (got his SS MIG). Especially colorful in the Cubi club (our antics ashore in WestPAC during the Vietnam era, would not go over well in today's Navy).
Navy's Robin Olds.....that's probably a stretch (though he had the requisite 'stache). We had thought that was Randy C. but, unfortunately, he forfeited that honor.
BzB
Mugs was to the F-4 as Jimi Hendrix was to the guitar. He could do things with that aircraft that were unimaginable. Of course he practiced quite a bit with out-of-control maneuvers like the one depicted. And they really worked, although extremely difficult to do correctly... and never advised at that altitude.
I believe the actual maneuver was slightly different than is shown in the animation, but no less impressive or dangerous. I saw and talked to both of them after that mission and although they were successful, they were white as a sheet too. They thought they had bought it! They are 10 times more calm discussing it now.
Bounced there all the time, but usually from the opposite runway. Outside of Atsugi, it was about the only game in WestPac to bounce.
the f-4 was short coupled ... it seems to me mugs coupled up negatively and to the left and then positively and to the right.
the return to controlled flight took just the right amount of lead as did the the 'mid couple' reversal.
i'm guessing the speed at entry was 350-400 ias. i don't understand the minimal altitude loss (if there was any), maybe just flight path inertia. once he started flying again he would have been outside the mig's turn radius but probably within 40 deg of the tailpipe... good enough for the
aim-9. i would also guess he had at least a little and maybe a lot of opening when he took the shot.
a-freekin'-mazing.
the return to controlled flight took just the right amount of lead as did the the 'mid couple' reversal.
i'm guessing the speed at entry was 350-400 ias. i don't understand the minimal altitude loss (if there was any), maybe just flight path inertia. once he started flying again he would have been outside the mig's turn radius but probably within 40 deg of the tailpipe... good enough for the
aim-9. i would also guess he had at least a little and maybe a lot of opening when he took the shot.
a-freekin'-mazing.