...put you on the watch bill and let you work on the OOD underway PQS.
"...be careful what you wish for..."
...put you on the watch bill and let you work on the OOD underway PQS.
OOD is a qualification, SWO is a warfare designator. There is no "chest lead" for OOD.you might be right...thats why I said it might just be a ship/command thing.
My friend is at SWOS right now (spoke with him last night) and this (coincidentally actually) my friend mentioned. He said it was one helo pilot and the OOD board didn't grill him as much because they knew he was doing it for the chest lead and not because he was going to be driving ships. .
Its still allowed for aviators but it depends on the ship/command. I have a friend on the Blue Ridge over in Japan, and he said the helo pilots will sometimes do it...they usually make the 'board' easier because they know they are an aviator and won't be the OOD very often.
I imagine you would have to be on a small boy as well.
I could be completely misjudging the NAO qualification, but I got the impression that it would give me the opportunity to better understand the community to which I would (most likely) be providing support. And if I got anything out of reading the threads about Intel life, it's that the more understanding I have about the aviation community, the better I'll be at my job.
Maybe I'm AFU, but doesn't the fact that intel is restricted line preclude intel officers from standing OOD underway?You'll have a unique opportunity to excel somewhere in the dh tour as OOD underway as it has become a wicket for command.
Knowing your job and doing it well will give you credibility. Knowing someone else's job will not.I feel like having that warfare qualification gives you that much more credibility, especially as your career progresses?
Maybe I'm AFU, but doesn't the fact that intel is restricted line preclude intel officers from standing OOD underway?
If you go intel, you have to recognize that part of the deal is that you will be "pinless" - not that there's anything wrong with that. Fact of life, and you have to live with it. Now, there is what I've always perceived to be degrees of "penis envy" within the 163X world.
As far as the NAO qual goes......not a whole lot of substance behind it. I think it's a legacy concept that has lived on....
....It seems like everyone is missing the point- at least for me, this is not about wanting something shiny to show off, and it's not that I am in any way disappointed with my choice of designator (trust me, I couldn't be more thrilled that I got intel, pin or no pin). It's about having the option to go above and beyond and learn something different. Kind of like having a minor in college...
I'm checking in for my Disassociated tour this month. I have already been told that the CO will sign the paperwork for 1300's to get their SWO Pin and that once it is your record nothing can be done. I know what the instructions say, I'm just repeating what I was told. I have heard of CO's telling priors to wear both their pins as well (Pilot and EAWS or SWO and ESWS.)
It's about having the option to go above and beyond and learn something different. Kind of like having a minor in college- my minor was pretty much useless to me, but it was interesting to learn, and it broke up the monotony of doing the same thing all day every day for four years. If it doesn't take away from my ability to do what I have to do, then what exactly is the problem?