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Unloggable Flight Hours

you can only log dual received if the instructor is rated to give instruction in the category, class and type (when applicable) of aircraft the instruction is being given in and type of instruction taking place. Now there are certain exceptions like a CFI can give instrument instruction so long as its not towards an instrument rating, in which case a CFII is required. Also, a CFII w/o an MEI can give instrument instruction towards the instrument rating in a multi-engine aircraft so long as the pilot receiving the instruction is multi-engine rated.

Bottomline though is have fun, it's the experience that matters not whether it is loggable.
 
What's "91 non rev" mean in reference to an empty leg?

..Hmmm, thanks to this thread and the "AW's in person" thread, I now know who Puma Swede is (I'm not much for porn - except maybe Super Chevy :D).. and that an aviator displaces about a firkin ... but I still have to turn to the lovely FAA legalese books and figure out the answer to the original question...

Either way - yes indeed - I'm having a blast, gaining great experience, and spending time in the sky. Yayuh!
 
eyes2theskies said:
What's "91 non rev" mean in reference to an empty leg?
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It means "Part 91 Non Revenue." For instance if a Part 135 operator (we'll say an air cargo company) is flying a leg of their flight where no revenue is being generated (say a trip to a maintenance facility after the cargo has been delivered for the day), they can depart the flight under Part 91 rather than adhering to part 135 regs. Someone correct me if I am wrong but this is usually done so the SIC on the part 135 flight can fly as the PIC under Part 91.
 
I believe eyes2theskies is a female... So her ideal "Pat" may be different from our ideal "Pat"....
 
C420sailor said:
I figured that you wouldn't be able to log PIC because you're not signing for the aircraft, but would it be considered Dual Received if your IP is not a CFI?
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While some airlines only consider PIC if you are signing for the aircraft, it isn't always the case for the FAA...
 
GO_AV8_DevilDog said:
good question,

I don't think it can be logged under 61/141 unless the instructor has the applicable ratings, I.E. CFI
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It would probably be under 91, since I'm not sure that military training falls under 61/141. Actually I'm not sure which part it'd be... I'd just keepthe times seperate.
 
You fall under OPNAV 3710 in a Naval aircraft. FAR's do outline exemptions for military traffic, but you are not flying under part 91 or 121 or anything else. It doesn't matter what "part" you are logging, you can put anything in your logbook you want as long as it is the proper category (i.e PIC, SIC, etc).
 
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