I'm a former Marine phrog avionics technician and now a commissioned Army 47 pilot. Do the Marines take pilots from the other services and if so what are the training requirements and other stipulations? I imagine I'd have to go to the Basic School but what about Pensacola? Do they have a short course for rated aviators?
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Army pilot seeking Marine cockpit opportunity
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To both of the above posts: There's no short course for experienced civilians, but they'll look at your Army training and place you appropriately depending on what A/C you might end up in. I would think you'd be treated just like any other airframe transition in the Navy. If you stay in helos, you would probably just go to the RAG, but if you went TACAIR, I imagine you'd spend some time in the training commands.
I think you'd have to start over from scratch. I've never seen an officer lat-xfer into the Corps. I know one Navy officer who was a commissioned officer helo pilot in the Army, and he had to go through all the undergrad helo training again, starting with API and everything. I'm pretty certain the Corps would do the same thing.
We lat transfer Air Force types right into Prowlers all the time. They just show up at the RAG and do the regular CAT I syllabus. Granted, it's just for one sea tour, but why would it be any different? Either you're quallified to fly, or you're not.phrogdriver said:
Brett
Are they true lat-xfers or are they on exchange?
Already rated pilot
I'm a former enlisted Marine (46 avionics) already rated in UH-60s and CH-47s. Supposing I was able to transfer into the Marines, at what point would I enter the flight training pipeline? Would I start in primary, intermediate rotors, even advanced?
I'm a former enlisted Marine (46 avionics) already rated in UH-60s and CH-47s. Supposing I was able to transfer into the Marines, at what point would I enter the flight training pipeline? Would I start in primary, intermediate rotors, even advanced?
What do you mean by "rated" in the UH-60/CH-47? Were you an Army Warrant? If you weren't a previously winged aviator (maintainer quals won't mean anything here) for some branch of the services, then you would start out well before primary, back in A-pool/IFS, then API, then primary, then rotors if you get them out of primary. Also, there is no such thing as intermediate rotors in Navy/USMC flight training...just advanced. Hope that helps!
CWJones411
IRR
How many hours?
The "waiver" is not based on hours....you need a private license or greater to not need IFS. I knew several guys with minimum hours for a private who had to do IFS just because they didn't officially have a PPL ticket.
phrog guy...pls update your user profile. 1-because it would help others help you. 2-because it's the right thing to do 'round here.
Already Rated
By rated I mean winged aviator. I'm commissioned, Capt. Only around 500 hours, around 80 NVG. Would have more had I went warrant. I have my commercial rotary wing with instrument endorsement and will soon have my commercial fixed with instrument after I return from Iraq.
I guess I should have been more clear. Do any of these things change my situation?
By rated I mean winged aviator. I'm commissioned, Capt. Only around 500 hours, around 80 NVG. Would have more had I went warrant. I have my commercial rotary wing with instrument endorsement and will soon have my commercial fixed with instrument after I return from Iraq.
I guess I should have been more clear. Do any of these things change my situation?
If are coming from another service into the Marines as an officer you will most likely have to go through TBS first (see TBS threads). We had a prior Air Force captain in my platoon that came over to the Corps from the Intel community and she was a 2nd Lt just like the rest of us. The only thing that she kept was her years in service.
How that applies from an aviation standpoint, not entirely sure. However, I would assume you will have to start at the beginning (TBS) regardless of what your MOS in your prior service was. I would also assume that you would enter TBS with the equivalent of an air-contract (2nd Lt that is pre-designated to go to flight school and not compete with the rest of his/her company for a slot).
My suggestion is to get in touch with a Marine Officer Selection Officer to discuss your options. If he/she has no immediate answers they can at least point you in the right direction.
This looked like a good start --> OSOs
EDIT: And just so the forum is all on the same page with regards to advice --> http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147862
How that applies from an aviation standpoint, not entirely sure. However, I would assume you will have to start at the beginning (TBS) regardless of what your MOS in your prior service was. I would also assume that you would enter TBS with the equivalent of an air-contract (2nd Lt that is pre-designated to go to flight school and not compete with the rest of his/her company for a slot).
My suggestion is to get in touch with a Marine Officer Selection Officer to discuss your options. If he/she has no immediate answers they can at least point you in the right direction.
This looked like a good start --> OSOs
EDIT: And just so the forum is all on the same page with regards to advice --> http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147862
torpedo0126
Member
I believe its a PPL or a cross country solo. IFS culminates into the XC solo, so if you have documentation of completing that you should be waived from IFS.