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Beale AFB Airshow - 18-19 April

Ditto on the cool pics huggy.

How long does it take you to don the "space suit"?

I must say of all the gizmos we used and learned about in ARSS wrt to disentanglement, a U-2 get up was never mentioned. I realize the odds of ever having to rescue a U-2 pilot are probably astronomical.
 
Awesome pics! How common/difficult is it for guys from other services to come on over and play yankee air pirate spy?

Also, are all chase cars as sweet as the mustang convertible, or was this just for the Airshow? I think I'd probably be okay with just driving that, for my collateral duties.
 
There are several air shows I want to make it to this spring, work schedule permitting. It seems that the tempo is picking up at wing shop and we'll be kicking into OT soon. I've already asked for two of the weekends off already.
 
...so does hanging out in your space suit like that really draw them in like flies?
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Only if they like the smell of piss wrapped in burnt bacon.

Serious question...once you suit up for a flight and go to pure O2, do you have to leave the visor down permanently....even when flying?
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You're supposed to, since having the visor up exposes you to the dangers of a rapid decompression. That said, I'm sure many-a-pilot pops the visor up and scratches their nose when required.

Awesome pics! How common/difficult is it for guys from other services to come on over and play yankee air pirate spy?
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More common than you'd think. We have a BUNCH of ex-Navy/Marine Interservice Transfers. Currently in training, we have a P-3 guy from Whidbey, and we are interviewing 2 Navy and 1 Marine officer between now and the end of March.

Also, are all chase cars as sweet as the mustang convertible, or was this just for the Airshow? I think I'd probably be okay with just driving that, for my collateral duties.
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That was a Roush Convertible that Mr Roush kindly loaned us for Oshkosh. These days, we normally use Pontiac GTO's.

How long does it take you to don the "space suit"?
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Not long. Maybe 15 minutes to put it on, do all the O2 and pressurization checks, and have the Supervisor re-check it all.

I must say of all the gizmos we used and learned about in ARSS wrt to disentanglement, a U-2 get up was never mentioned. I realize the odds of ever having to rescue a U-2 pilot are probably astronomical.
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Funny you mention that. My classmate in U-2 training is now the Vice Commander of the USAF Flight Test Center at Edwards. When we went through training, he died because the rescue folks didn't know the suit. He suffocated in it, and his heart stopped. Obviously, they CPR'd him back to life, but even though I"m skipping a bunch of the story, it would have helped if the Rescue folks had been trained on our equipment. And if you EVER want to come down here and train on it, contact me and I'll do what I can to facilitate. Seriously.
 
huggyu2 said:
That was a Roush Convertible that Mr Roush kindly loaned us for Oshkosh. These days, we normally use Pontiac GTO's.
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No more Camaros? When I was in high school out that way, I always wondered what happened to the 'retired' chase cars and whether you could get a good deal on them.
 
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Funny you mention that. My classmate in U-2 training is now the Vice Commander of the USAF Flight Test Center at Edwards. When we went through training, he died because the rescue folks didn't know the suit. He suffocated in it, and his heart stopped. Obviously, they CPR'd him back to life, but even though I"m skipping a bunch of the story, it would have helped if the Rescue folks had been trained on our equipment. And if you EVER want to come down here and train on it, contact me and I'll do what I can to facilitate. Seriously.
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Huggy- Glad the Vice Commander made it! Holly crap! Trapped by the very life support equipment that is supposed to save your ass..

I have been retired for 6yrs now, so it wouldn’t do me any good to learn how to strip a U-2 pilot down. Where I live now, it would be something like “Hey lookie thar, a space man dun fell outa the sky. I shot it 5 times then cut em open to see wut wuz inside.” But, hey I’m one of ‘em, crazy locals!:D

Serious now.
I believe the best way to go about this is to present your info to NASC ARSS and let them decide if they want to include it in their curriculum. Do you maybe have a “training device” you could offer up? An old space suit and helmet, or whatever is the most important part of your flight gear, for rescue folks to get hands on and train with.
I am willing to make some calls to NASC and put you in touch with the right people. Or, there are a bunch of people, right here on AW, who are in Pensacola right now….
First question I’d ask is if this subject is already in the curriculum. Wasn’t when I went through in ’93. The PJ’s probably already have a course of instruction on this.
 
Cameros: actually, yes, we still have a bunch. But no one drives them unless we're out of GTO's. They are "tired" to say the least. I'd buy one if/when DRMO puts them up for sale. But I wouldn't pay for than about $2-3K for one.

H60: we have our own built in SERE guys (currently 2). They are pretty good about getting the word out. I'll pass your comments to them, and see if they want to pursue this with more SERE/PJ types. I appreciate your offer to help out.
 
H60Gunner said:
First question I’d ask is if this subject is already in the curriculum. Wasn’t when I went through in ’93. The PJ’s probably already have a course of instruction on this.
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It's not, I helped write the new 5 week program. I can only imagine the call to rescue an U-2, probably big Navy told to stand down and let AF Rescue handle it. Even with all the advances in aviation life support technology, I wouldn't know where to start with that suit.

Huggy- Are the "BB" T-38's always flown solo?
 
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Huggy- Are the "BB" T-38's always flown solo?
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Usually flown dual, but no requirement to do so. If I've got a solo flight, I'll grab a new guy, and just have him sandbag my backseat. Kind of a waste to not try to at least throw someone in the back to share the experience.
 
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Usually flown dual, but no requirement to do so. If I've got a solo flight, I'll grab a new guy, and just have him sandbag my backseat. Kind of a waste to not try to at least throw someone in the back to share the experience.
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Pardon for the plug.

You know Huggy, I'd be glad to arrange an incentive ride in the MIGHTY KC-10 if you could find it in your heart to, uh.... reciprocate :D

"Supersonic one day, above 70,000 feet the next"
 
Huggy, I had a question regarding Breitling watches. I understand a limited edition 50th anniversary edition was made for the pilots. Is this true and were you able to get one? Thanks.
 
True statement. I designed the watch, and based it on their "B-1" model (which is discontinued). I did all the coordination with Breitling USA, collected the money, etc...
Kind of a pain, but the final product was well worth it. I bought 2, and was going to use one of them as an "investment". But one of the guys later decided he wanted one, so I sold it to him.

Back to the thread: who's coming to Beale for the Airshow?
 
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