AF Honchos Fired

[jarhead]

ISR is great, but it does not put ordnance on the bad guy's skull.

Everything has it's place in the force, but to say that "ISR is where it's at" is just as misguided as putting all your eggs in an Air Dominance basket. All those Preds will give the Generals a great view of the F-15s and F-18s getting shot down by Flankers and SA-10/20s in the Straits.

yea, there's got to be a balance with priorities. I remember in the 90's when the Pentagon thought could win future wars from the air and cutback on ground troops, now we're paying for it. I wonder who's gonna get shitcanned in 15 years when our troops are getting bombed because we don't own the air?

 

[LazersGoPEWPEW]

Shoot a lot of our HUMINT problems in the Middle East deteriorated when Carter pushed for more satellites and less feet on the ground.


There is no replacement for a human.

I concur on that airpower issue. It's important but if you don't have guys knocking down doors taking care of business you got nothing.

 

[whalepelt]

While there are many worthy candidates, Gen Chilton is a tremendous leader/warrior/mentor/officer/pilot.

...and a U-2 guy to boot

 

[HuggyU2]

2 points:
Gen Chilton is COMSTRATCOM....it was HIS guys that screwed the pooch on those nuke issues...so why isn't he taking any of the hit?

He became COMSTRATCOM about a month after the incident occurred.

 

[A4sForever]

W/ the high level, public "executions" of senior AF officials ... watch for Boeing to get another look-see in the tanker go-'round.

There's already a full-court press going on compliments of the totally ineffective WA state delegation. And Boeing's corporate HQ is now in Chicago, IL. Now what other politician of recent repute is from there .... ???

Remember -- it's ALWAYS politics & $$$$ first in line w/ military procurement contracts .... always.

 

[LazersGoPEWPEW]

Unmanned Aerial Refueling.

 

[snake020]

Unbelieveable. One of Gen Moseley's last acts as head of the air force?

Reinstatement of a nuclear missile operations badge.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123101809

I wonder if the kid that was caught playing video games while on guard duty gets one.

 

[Flash]

Shoot a lot of our HUMINT problems in the Middle East deteriorated when Carter pushed for more satellites and less feet on the ground.

HUMINT problems, yes, but the Middle East..........not so much. Remember, it was the Cold War.

 

[Flash]

ISR is great, but it does not put ordnance on the bad guy's skull.

You sure about that?

Everything has it's place in the force, but to say that "ISR is where it's at" is just as misguided as putting all your eggs in an Air Dominance basket. All those Preds will give the Generals a great view of the F-15s and F-18s getting shot down by Flankers and SA-10/20s in the Straits.

Agree, but it seemed like the USAF turned a deaf ear to the concerns of the SECDEF, even after public admonishments. They have been too focused on the whole Air Dominance thing for a bit, a rightful concern......but you gotta pay attention to your what you immediate boss wants too. The USAF has been VERY inflexible in adjusting the deployments of most of their ISR assets, even after asking for relief to fix the problems, and then not fixing them and begging for more relief. They have gradually lost a lot of credibility, something that they will have to rebuild with the new leadership.

 

[Mumbles]

^That Reaper is just evil looking.

 

[a-6intruder]

What's next, time sheets and clocking in? Fine, I want back pay for those 100 hour + work weeks on workups and deployment.

The future is here. Beginning tomorrow, Joint Forces Command is initiating time sheet accountability w/ "SLDCADA." Don't even know what it stands for, but it is a Navy developed program the civil service personnel initially used and now the 4-star wants to use for military as well.

The stated purpose is that the General wants to better understand where the money is going, so if you work 3 hours on Project X, you log 3 hours against Project X. At the end of Project X, he will have a feel for how much manpower it took, so that when similar Project X1 comes along, they will know how much manpower to throw at it. Instead of Projects, the Command has identified 21 core competencies and you bill your time against one of those areas, or admin / overhead.

Similar concept to lawyers billing to specific clients.

Perhaps not the first sign of the Apocalypse, but it isn't a far stretch until they put one of those RF Tag monitoring devices at all the exits to know when you enter / leave during the day.

And there certainly won't be extra credit for those 100+ hour weeks, but a penalty will probably apply for the opposite.

 

[Flash]

^That Reaper is just evil looking.

How about this one?

 

[LazersGoPEWPEW]

HUMINT problems, yes, but the Middle East..........not so much. Remember, it was the Cold War.

Lebanon? Afghanistan?

 

[HeyJoe]

More reporting that digs into reasons behind resignations. Read Loren Thompon's assessment. That is right on target IMHO.

 

[Flash]

Lebanon? Afghanistan?

The focus of US Intel was the USSR during the Cold War, not the Middle East. And Afghanistan was after the ADM Turner's 'Halloween Massacre'.