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HeyJoe

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I remember reading Red Storm Rising and the chapter about the outer air battle 20 years ago ....and being utterly fascinated. I couldn't believe that the Tomcats were duped by the drones thinking they were the Badgers and Backfires.....and let the "Vampire" AS-4 and AS-6 get through. The Tomkittys redeem themselves later in the novel.


During my time working the Outer Air Battle problem, that would not have happened. Clancy isn't that clued in (we had our ways of knowing where the targets were and really screwing them up). He was writing a novel, we were living it (he never figured out Tomcat had an internal ladder and always had a stairway brought up to Tomcat on cross-countries in his book).
 

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HJ....was that shot during Ocean Safari??
That's an ELINT bird....Bear D...correct??

Pretty rare encounter with ELINT Cub off Vestfjord in 1985

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One of the funny Antanov intercept stories I heard once was somebody had a wingman screaming..."Holeee shit....I've got a Cock,(AN-22) on my nose!"

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During my time working the Outer Air Battle problem, that would not have happened. Clancy isn't that clued in (we had our ways of knowing where the targets were and really screwing them up).
My first squadron during an IO deployment when ADM Zap was CAG on Carl Vinson, I went to the carrier for a couple weeks as the VP liaison officer since there were a couple of Sov subs hanging around out of Sacotra. After everything had cooled down, Zap went back to Dodge with me for a little P-3 appreciation time. He decided to test his air wing. I was squadron Tactics officer and he & I sat down and planned a harpoonex against the carrier (well he planned and I supplied the P-3 capabilities check). We launched 8 P-3s from 4 different IO locations and managed to get 4 of them well within harpoon range prior to their being intercepted. Zap & my CO were on my plane (we made the shot) and his DCAG was in charge on the carrier end. When C7F got the results he was not happy and he came screaming out of Cubi on a P-3 to Dodge and an immediate US-3 to the carrier with Zap and I on his wing in a second US-3. Another debrief on the carrier and then C7F, the BG commander and Zap disappeared into a closed meeting. Afterward Zap told me both he and the BG commander came very very close to being relieved....

It's nice to have inside info and I'm sure that's the only reason we were successful.

I saw Zap when I was on my carrier tour and he was BUPERS (I think). It was after he had the Midway BG and after the tailhook blow-up. I told him I wanted good orders or I'd start handing out the picture I have of him mooning some of his air wing from the P-3 cockpit. I sent him the negative at his request.
 

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Old R.O. Picture of the Day for 8 December 2008

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CVWR-30 early '80s two-week ACDUTRA deployment to NAS Fallon.
VFP-306 RF-8G taxies by VA-303 Golden Hawks A-7Bs. Photo shot from one of the air wing hangar's second floor ready rooms.
 

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For those of you who want some "old school" color...

F8F-2 Bearcat of VF-192, part of Carrier Air Group 19 stationed at NAS Alameda in the late 1940s/early 1950s.

Picture was taken by RADM(Ret) Gene Tissot when he was a JO in VF-192 (which became VF-114 in 1950 and was disestablished in 1993).

He sent it into Tailhook HQ. I though you'd like to see it.
 

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Rare bird

Although we had an EA-3B Skywarrior aboard during IO cruise in 1984, it usually went up near Iran and did its thing and came back screaming when told to "Charlie". We were on max conserve CAP when that happened one day and they came by to say hello en route to USS America.

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Solitary Screwtop

On another day in the Godforsaken Summer Monsoon, we decided to pay our solitary Screwtop a call

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^ Same time on the Carl Vinson as my ADM Zap story....

There was a Whale parked with its canopy just behind and to the right of the JBD of the starboard bow cat and its ass sticking toward the deck edge. F-14 on the cat and it doesn't fire. It took them almost 10 minutes to safe the cat and F-14 sat there in burner the whole time. The JBD was glowing cherry red and the front end of the Whale amd canopy looked like melted plastic. They gutted it of anything salvageable and pushed the hulk over the side.
 

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For you MPRA types

Once a week in the IO, a pair of Il-38 Mays would try to find the Battle Group. Not that easy under a Summer Monsoon and not much fun playing games with them trying to scrap you off a merchant ship mast or have them slowly back off on the power down low.

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^ Same time on the Carl Vinson as my ADM Zap story....

There was a Whale parked with its canopy just behind and to the right of the JBD of the starboard bow cat and its ass sticking toward the deck edge. F-14 on the cat and it doesn't fire. It took them almost 10 minutes to safe the cat and F-14 sat there in burner the whole time. The JBD was glowing cherry red and the front end of the Whale amd canopy looked like melted plastic. They gutted it of anything salvageable and pushed the hulk over the side.


Pictures of that would've been pretty cool. Good thing there wasn't anyone sitting in it.
 
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