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Hypothetical Attack

red_ryder

red_ryder

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CWJones411 said:
Validates the need for a strong Navy.
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Agreed. I think we got them spanked in that arena, although we gotta watch out for those quiet diesel subs they keep coming out with!

It's nice of them to let us know their plan so we know what to look for and get ready in advance. Sounds pretty effective as far as this humble war n00b can tell.

I like the part where they say that attacking American bases and killing U.S. troops will make us protest and want to withdraw. Maybe in stamina wars like iraq and vietnam, but...maybe they don't remember pearl harbor.

Do any saltier dudes than I want to give their insight?
 
FLYTPAY

FLYTPAY

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red_ryder said:
Agreed. I think we got them spanked in that arena, although we gotta watch out for those quiet diesel subs they keep coming out with!
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It would be harder than you think....I cannot elaborate here for obvious reasons.

red_ryder said:
It's nice of them to let us know their plan so we know what to look for and get ready in advance. Sounds pretty effective as far as this humble war n00b can tell.
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Please tell me you do do not believe a published "plan"? I assure you however we are "ready"....although I see room for improvement.
 
red_ryder

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No, I didn't assume that's what they'd actually do.

But it can't hurt to be ready for all that, either.
 
Flash

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An invasion of the of the Taiwanese held islands of Quemoy/Kinmen and Matsu Islands is a much likelier scenario. They are very close to the Chinese mainland and their takeover would be easier than of Taiwan proper, and probably easier to do politically (more palatable than a complete takeover). And it would also have the added benefit of probably happening quick enough that we could not interfere.
 
BlackBearHockey

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The article, published with merit or not (thanks for bringing up that point), brings up an interesting thought about the American public, something that I believe needs to be addressed.

I don't believe there have been many military engagements which have had a 100% rah rah America behind it (I'm not a history major, so if I'm completely wrong let me know, this is based on some discussions I've had with more those more knowledgeable).

Iraq is a perfect example, it seems as if the typical American anymore is more concerned with why America shouldn't do something/be somewhere etc. etc. that unless there was a full-scale attack on US soil, there wouldn't be much positive backing from the people.

I think the Middle East is a perfect example. You have a military who's scoring unbelievably well in terms of casualties per bad guys killed, completing a morally sound mission, and taking extreme precautions to preserve innocent human life (can you even compare this to the other side?), yet an extremely dissenting American population. Even those who go as far to slander the actual troops are gaining more notoriety and press time. This same America decides the leaders of war, which are more so bureaucrats anymore.

This is what scares me more than anything about wars of the future. Will it still be possible to fight a military front and a homefront as well? I think there's a lot behind this, much of it beyond the scope of the post, but I'd love to hear saltier opinions on this.
 
Flash

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BlackBearHockey said:
The article, published with merit or not (thanks for bringing up that point), brings up an interesting thought about the American public, something that I believe needs to be addressed.

I don't believe there have been many military engagements which have had a 100% rah rah America behind it (I'm not a history major, so if I'm completely wrong let me know, this is based on some discussions I've had with more those more knowledgeable).

Iraq is a perfect example, it seems as if the typical American anymore is more concerned with why America shouldn't do something/be somewhere etc. etc. that unless there was a full-scale attack on US soil, there wouldn't be much positive backing from the people.

I think the Middle East is a perfect example. You have a military who's scoring unbelievably well in terms of casualties per bad guys killed, completing a morally sound mission, and taking extreme precautions to preserve innocent human life (can you even compare this to the other side?), yet an extremely dissenting American population. Even those who go as far to slander the actual troops are gaining more notoriety and press time. This same America decides the leaders of war, which are more so bureaucrats anymore.

This is what scares me more than anything about wars of the future. Will it still be possible to fight a military front and a homefront as well? I think there's a lot behind this, much of it beyond the scope of the post, but I'd love to hear saltier opinions on this.
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I think you are taking only a few examples and using them too broadly. I think that the American public has more stomach than you think for conflict. If the threats and objectives are explained thoroughly (and make sense to teh average American), and the risks are spelled out, and we have eventual success, then the American people are more than willing to go along. Look at the Gulf War and Afghanistan, both had/have broad support from the American people.

An attack against a fellow democracy by a much larger and dictatorial country would riaise the ire of the American people and would probably get broad support from the American public.
 
raptor10

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jfulginiti said:
Dude, whatever. For all we know, the Air Force made that up so they can justify getting more F-22s. Take a look at this article and then decide how legit the Air Force Times is.


I'll lift her over my head for two hours straight... :D
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