Damn straight. Afterall, I lied and told the front office you were a good pilot and officer. You owe me
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The Warrants have arrived
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Damn straight. Afterall, I lied and told the front office you were a good pilot and officer. You owe me
Damn straight. Afterall, I lied and told the front office you were a good pilot and officer. You owe me
I'm sure I do. I'll buy you a beer the next time I'm in P-cola.
But for the record, I'm a very good pilot.
That's two beers, one for each lie. Those weren't little white lies, those were you're going to burn in hell lies.
I'm sure you are :icon_smil
My prediction will find the program an absolute success for the Navy leadership. They will further make changes.
The Navy should/will make the following changes.
1) Prior enlisted experience/college not required.
2) Minimum age 20 or even 18 and meeting the OCS
requirements other than college.
3) Possibly make a private pilot license a requirement for
the perspective Warrant Officer candidates and start
them at the pay grade of W-1.
4) With the above changes, the Navy will always have
more than enough qualified applicants beating
down the hatches.
Reasons on going with youth. They are easier to train, in better physical condition with quicker reflexes and can be retained on flying duty for a longer period of time, with consequent reduction of training cost.
The Navy will come around to the way of Army thinking on aviation. It just getting started. If you want flying time go Warrant.
It's a start of a new day in Naval Aviation. This program will be successful.
The Navy should/will make the following changes.
1) Prior enlisted experience/college not required.
2) Minimum age 20 or even 18 and meeting the OCS
requirements other than college.
3) Possibly make a private pilot license a requirement for
the perspective Warrant Officer candidates and start
them at the pay grade of W-1.
4) With the above changes, the Navy will always have
more than enough qualified applicants beating
down the hatches.
Reasons on going with youth. They are easier to train, in better physical condition with quicker reflexes and can be retained on flying duty for a longer period of time, with consequent reduction of training cost.
The Navy will come around to the way of Army thinking on aviation. It just getting started. If you want flying time go Warrant.
It's a start of a new day in Naval Aviation. This program will be successful.
Easier to train than who, college graduates? How will these younger students do on the book/memorization/testing side of naval air training? They have not gone through college and therefore have not proved that they are capable to the level required to fly (not to be confused with the duties of a naval aircrewman)
Or the attention span will be less.
And physical condition plays an incredibly minor role compared to skill. In terms of retainment on flying duty, the limiting factor has not been age when taken over a 20 year career. It's the other duties getting in the way that preclude one from staying in the cockpit (with some exceptions).
My prediction is that the Navy will give the "program" another couple years, then trash it, just like it has done in the past.
Brett
And IF all your "recommendations" were to come true and the above is the case, it would be absolutely detrimental to the aviation officer corps. It's already hard enough to advanced past O-3/DH (for the time being), but taking even more flying jobs away would drive non-warrant officers out even more so than what's currently happening.
Damn it, you've made me contribute to a warrant thread, which is only slightly less annoying than a political thread.
It's unbelievable how things go in cycles. Not to long ago, O-4 and DH were automatic (unless you committed a crime). Now, I hear all these bad stories. The civilians I work for were forced retired as O-4's back in the mid 90's. Didn't make O-5, done, gone. I know one officer, a retired O-5 who said his only EP came during his DH tour, a #2 and he picked up O-5. One break out (somewhat) tour and he makes O-5. Such is life in the Navy.
What do you think they'd do with the warrants they already trained?
Retain them on a special designator till they all get out maybe?
I guess the other option would be the whole blue/red pill choice of go through some kind of officer program and cross over as an ensign with all that time served and no grade to show for it or get out. I think if they went that way a lot of guys would tell them to shove it and go take a look down the street at ANG or other options.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
Probably like what happened with the enlisted NAP's. Just a bunch that will slowly fade into the sunset.
I find that even at my age, I sometimes have difficulty getting the learning point across to younger cohorts, I'm often in better physical condition, and have more long-term career prospects as they're prone to doing some really dumb things.
So much for that theory.