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Children being shot in schools

fc2spyguy

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Exactly. And the post I was reffering to was the one saying that laws keeping guns out of schools only effected "bad kids" or criminals. I think you and I are on the same track. The only people that the "no guns on school property" laws effect are adults, and to be more specific adults with CCW's. Since carrying a concealed handgun is already illegal if you dont have one. So, my point stands.

We all know that the teachers are not going to get ccw's. Most of them (I love generalizations) are part of the group that can't stand guns in the first place.
 

xmid

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We all know that the teachers are not going to get ccw's. Most of them (I love generalizations) are part of the group that can't stand guns in the first place.

True alot of them aren't, and I think alot of this has to do with the region. I know a couple of teachers at my dad's school (my old man included) that would probably do it. I'm not even arguing that they should be allowed in schools, just that the current law DOES primarily effect good law abiding citizens. Criminals are going to do what they do no matter the law... thats why they're criminals. Now I am a pistol-packin', gun-collecting, southern gun-nut, but even I would be cautious about allowing them in school. Here in Georgia at least getting a CCW is as easy as renewing your tags, if you arent a felon. The chances of a good guy returning fire in a school full of kids does not sound like a pretty picture. Not to mention firearms in the classroom are just not something I think kids need to think about.
 

HOORAH

Uncle Sam's Misguided Children
Awesome! I love how you criticize without offering a solution. What do you propose to do about it? Honestly, if someone is looking to die, they will take out any number of people with them to do it. Unless of course you want security checkpoints at schools, and tell me where is that money going to come from?
I don't know about you but a Governor that essentially says well, I'm not going to do anything or look at the problem or assess how this could fixed even a little is not a very good Governor. If you're at a Press Conference dealing with that situation you know you're going to be asked that, unless you're a moron, and no in 24 hours you aren't going to have a solution but to completely negate the idea that you're going to address it tomorrow is ridiculous. What a fabulous leader.

Oh and the high school in my school district has metal detectors. Sounds like check points to me. I believe the taxpayers paid for them. :D
 

Flash

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I don't know about you but a Governor that essentially says well, I'm not going to do anything or look at the problem or assess how this could fixed even a little is not a very good Governor. If you're at a Press Conference dealing with that situation you know you're going to be asked that, unless you're a moron, and no in 24 hours you aren't going to have a solution but to completely negate the idea that you're going to address it tomorrow is ridiculous. What a fabulous leader.

Oh and the high school in my school district has metal detectors. Sounds like check points to me. I believe the taxpayers paid for them. :D

What do you suggest he does? I believe the school is private and has a choice to do what it wants when it comes to security. I doubt the Amish, who don't use electricity and other modern tools, are going to be getting metal detectors for their schools anytime soon. Get a grip.
 

HOORAH

Uncle Sam's Misguided Children
What do you suggest he does? I believe the school is private and has a choice to do what it wants when it comes to security. I doubt the Amish, who don't use electricity and other modern tools, are going to be getting metal detectors for their schools anytime soon. Get a grip.

Please, Flash, tell me more about the Amish as I've only lived in Amish Country my entire life. And you're wrong on that statement a little. It depends on the Sect some are more liberal than others and some will utilize modern tools in some ways if deemed neccassary or needed. But please tell me more as you think you're an expert.
 

Cate

Pretty much invincible
Well, there is some truth to the thought that a sect that meets in a one-room clapboard schoolhouse with gas lanterns is going to have a tough time finding a place to plug in the metal detector, and that a sect devoted to principles of nonviolence and nonresistance will be unlikely to post an armed guard at the door.

I'm just sayin'.
 

Brett327

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Please, Flash, tell me more about the Amish as I've only lived in Amish Country my entire life. And you're wrong on that statement a little. It depends on the Sect some are more liberal than others and some will utilize modern tools in some ways if deemed neccassary or needed. But please tell me more as you think you're an expert.

Let's all get indignant over who knows more about a bizarre and obscure group of religious extremists. Let's get a life, people.

Brett
 

Cate

Pretty much invincible
10 myths about school shootings

An interesting read, certainly.

When I lived in Atlanta, I worked in one of the buildings where the Buckhead Day Trader Massacre took place ("Two Securities Centre;" irony, anyone?). When I got there, I didn't know that that was the building that got shot up years before, and I didn't know until I asked why the stairwells all locked from the inside (so once you were on the stairs, you had to go all the way down and out the door). I was told that it was because when the elevators were shut down, Mark Barton used the stairs to go from floor to floor and kill people.

At first, I was kind of shocked (so now he can only shoot up one whole entire floor before leaving the building) that that was the only security they'd added, but then I realized that there really wasn't a lot they could do. I mean, badges, key cards, uniformed guy taking a nap at the security desk, if someone's really intent on getting in and doing some damage (which crazy people tend to be), they're going to do it.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't take what precautions we can; it just means that you can't prevent against everything, and when something like this happens, sometimes you just have to say, "Man, that was tragic," and not try to blame someone for falling down on the job.
 
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