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Rockets Hit Lebanon Despite Cease-Fire
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Deceiving in what way? Katyushia rockets were fired and impacted in S. Lebanon. Normally I'm very critical of AP's generally sensational and inaccurate choice of wording for their headlines, but in this case the blame lies with Military.com, as AP's original story was released under the following headline: "Katyushia Rockets Hit Lebanon," removing any ambiguity as to which side launched the rockets.
Brett
greysword
Boldly lick where no one has licked before
Someone posted the story of the Marine fighting the sailor, and noted that if the cease-fire is instituted then Hezbollah will claim victory.
Well, thats what is happening. Hezbollah is thinks it won something:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14351426/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5649841
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14356871/
In addition, the Lebanese Army is supposed to take control and keep Hezbollah from attacking, but a CNN article proves that it just won't happen:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/21/cnna.lahoud/index.html
I thought the reason Israel stopped was because the US asked them to do so. In addition, I remember seeing the Lebanese President on the news crying about how his country is getting ripped apart and the UN needs to do something...bah. We should have let them keep going.
Well, thats what is happening. Hezbollah is thinks it won something:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14351426/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5649841
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14356871/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208378,00.html
In addition, the Lebanese Army is supposed to take control and keep Hezbollah from attacking, but a CNN article proves that it just won't happen:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/21/cnna.lahoud/index.html
I thought the reason Israel stopped was because the US asked them to do so. In addition, I remember seeing the Lebanese President on the news crying about how his country is getting ripped apart and the UN needs to do something...bah. We should have let them keep going.
When fighting these types of people who believe every little thing is controlled by god, they will claim victory as long as at least one is able to speak, even if the casualty rate is 200/1. When we leave Iraq, be it tommorow or years from now, the insurgents there will too claim victory over the zionists.
Unlike Christians, who never do that kind of thing. Kurt Warner scores a touchdown - THANK YOU JESUS!
Brett
While all religions usually thank some diety for their accomplishments, only one accepts both life and death the same way. If one kills an infidel, it is because of god. If it takes 10 other muslims out to get the infidel, it too is because of god. If 10 children are killed in a terrorist safehouse, its god again, Hurricane Katrina= God (or Bush depending who you ask). If it takes 700 killed and international pressure to call a cease fire, ALLAH AKBAR!! LALALALALALALA!!!!
Ever heard of Calvinism?
Cate
Pretty much invincible
As opposed to, say, Christianity, where people talk about eternal life that comes because of one guy's death. And where people look forward to dying because of an eternal reward in the afterlife. Oh, and where a hurricane will wipe out the better part of a state because God hates gay pride parades. And where unrest in the Middle East is actually a good thing, because it'll speed the coming of the Rapture.
And as opposed to Hinduism, where death is celebrated as an opportunity to be reborn into a better situation, depending on how you lived your life.
And as opposed to Buddhism (which is, I realize, not a religion but a philosophy), in which death isn't celebrated so much as it's recognized as an inevitability not to be feared, just as life is an inevitability not to be celebrated but rather respected.
And as opposed to many Native American religions that celebrate death as an opportunity to be one with the spirits of nature, and in so doing becoming an omnipresent influence on those who are still living.
But besides those, and Zoroastrianism, and Wicca, and Elvis worship, Islam is the only religion that accepts life and death the same way. You're exactly right.
pdx
HSM Pilot
If anyone thinks there is a fundamental difference between the behavior of Christians and the behavior of Muslims, I would challenge them to a deeper reading of history. And I am not only talking about the crusades, I'm talking about more contemporary history as well.
The doctrines and specific justifications for various acts vary from religion to religion, but the actions remain the same. It isn't the Koran or some quote of Muhammad that is causing violence, it is the prevailing culture in these places. Religion is just a convenient way to get everybody moving in the same direction without thinking too critically.
I say that the threat to the world isn't Islam, or even Islamic Fundamentalism, it is Fundamentalism period.
The Koran certainly has some warlike and vicious quotes, but so does the Bible. I can pull out a few gems if anybody is interested. The difference is that modern Christianity (for the most part) chooses not to take them too seriously.
The difference between us and them isn't religion, it's that we are better educated, wealthier, and we actually have something to lose. It has taken generations of free thought, free speech, and courage to bring our society to the point that it is at. It's not perfect, and sometimes we take a step backward for every two forward. But we have BUILT something here, and I don't intend to let anybody tear it apart regardless of what their cause is. I believe were always only one generation away from total collapse.
An interesting case is the Renaissance, which (as most of you know) French for the Rebirth. It was the beginning of the rebirth of art, literature, science, philosophy, etc. It's called the rebirth, and not the birth because all of the Christian world took a huge cultural step backward in the Middle Ages (aka Dark Ages). It forgot things that the Romans and Greeks had known 1000 years earlier - including some ideas about the value of human life and personal freedoms. If you think Mohammad inspires violence now, Jesus was the same back then.
Interestingly enough, most of what we recovered came via the Muslim scholars of the time. THEIRS were the libraries and stores of knowledge that allowed the Renaissance to happen.
It's also interesting to note that THEY were the tolerant ones. When Spain was under Moorish rule, the Christian and Jewish peasantry was allowed, and even encouraged to go about their lives in (relative) peace. It was good for business. With the reconquest by the Christians, all of that changed. The Muslims and the Jews were driven out, and the Christians were "purged" by the inquisition in the name of our Lord and Savior.
I think its important to remember that the Middle East used to be the home of great and educated civilizations (including after the coming of Islam). Why did all of that fall apart and degenerate into the current freakshow? I suppose it is for the same reason that Rome, Greece, Egypt, etc fell.
Maybe this post needs to be moved the "War Zone," but that's my $.02
The doctrines and specific justifications for various acts vary from religion to religion, but the actions remain the same. It isn't the Koran or some quote of Muhammad that is causing violence, it is the prevailing culture in these places. Religion is just a convenient way to get everybody moving in the same direction without thinking too critically.
I say that the threat to the world isn't Islam, or even Islamic Fundamentalism, it is Fundamentalism period.
The Koran certainly has some warlike and vicious quotes, but so does the Bible. I can pull out a few gems if anybody is interested. The difference is that modern Christianity (for the most part) chooses not to take them too seriously.
The difference between us and them isn't religion, it's that we are better educated, wealthier, and we actually have something to lose. It has taken generations of free thought, free speech, and courage to bring our society to the point that it is at. It's not perfect, and sometimes we take a step backward for every two forward. But we have BUILT something here, and I don't intend to let anybody tear it apart regardless of what their cause is. I believe were always only one generation away from total collapse.
An interesting case is the Renaissance, which (as most of you know) French for the Rebirth. It was the beginning of the rebirth of art, literature, science, philosophy, etc. It's called the rebirth, and not the birth because all of the Christian world took a huge cultural step backward in the Middle Ages (aka Dark Ages). It forgot things that the Romans and Greeks had known 1000 years earlier - including some ideas about the value of human life and personal freedoms. If you think Mohammad inspires violence now, Jesus was the same back then.
Interestingly enough, most of what we recovered came via the Muslim scholars of the time. THEIRS were the libraries and stores of knowledge that allowed the Renaissance to happen.
It's also interesting to note that THEY were the tolerant ones. When Spain was under Moorish rule, the Christian and Jewish peasantry was allowed, and even encouraged to go about their lives in (relative) peace. It was good for business. With the reconquest by the Christians, all of that changed. The Muslims and the Jews were driven out, and the Christians were "purged" by the inquisition in the name of our Lord and Savior.
I think its important to remember that the Middle East used to be the home of great and educated civilizations (including after the coming of Islam). Why did all of that fall apart and degenerate into the current freakshow? I suppose it is for the same reason that Rome, Greece, Egypt, etc fell.
Maybe this post needs to be moved the "War Zone," but that's my $.02