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ChuckMK23 said:
I would argue the Harbin Z-20 helo is as good or better than anything LM/Sikorsky can put out in 2026.

Despite tariffs, executive orders, "forge America", etc I think America will never, never be a leader in raw manufacturing scale/quality ever again. Thank god we have tech infrastructure, elite universities, the best healthcare capabilities on the planet, the ability to feed the world, and a healthy service/consumer based economy underneath it all.
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We have data on Chinese manufacturing reliability already. Here’s some unclassified information that scratches the surface.

Your assessment on advanced US manufacturing is wrong. You just need to do some basic analysis.
 
ChuckMK23 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2113572523166359705

Based on years of experience using the Black Hawk, in the Z20's design, even the concealed maintenance ladder replicates the Black Hawk's design.
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Watching the video made me immediately want to do the "stow-the-steps" prank on him while he was at the top. I wonder if they will also do the prank that involves a noob "pumping up" the tailwheel by pushing the spring load steps in and out. I am guilty of doing the first and have seen videos of the second.

FWIW, US Army doesn't require cranials or helmets for preflight either
 
RobLyman said:
Watching the video made me immediately want to do the "stow-the-steps" prank on him while he was at the top. I wonder if they will also do the prank that involves a noob "pumping up" the tailwheel by pushing the spring load steps in and out. I am guilty of doing the first and have seen videos of the second.

FWIW, US Army doesn't require cranials or helmets for preflight either
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Or the relief tube sound powered phone trick…..
 
IKE said:
I wasn't tracking a return to civilian config, but I knew they bought 8× TH-57B. I wouldn't say the control laws are similar...the current "cockpit" controls for the Human Landing System (HLS) are nothing like a collective, cyclic, and pedals. But, yes, it seems landing on the dusty moon is not unlike dusty Earth LZs, and whirlybird skills are en vogue.
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Ike, I stand corrected. The NASA TH-57Bs are indeed registered as "TH-57" and not BH206B.

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In high school (early 70s) I worked for a Bell 206 operator. Decades later I flew law enforcement missions In a surplus OH 58 that was a Ft Rucker veteran. I have never been able to get a grasp on the difference between the TH-57 and TH-58, or OH-58 for that matter.
 
wink said:
In high school (early 70s) I worked for a Bell 206 operator. Decades later I flew law enforcement missions In a surplus OH 58 that was a Ft Rucker veteran. I have never been able to get a grasp on the difference between the TH-57 and TH-58, or OH-58 for that matter.
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OH-58 had a slightly larger main rotor than the TH-57 and Bell 206B...but otherwise the same.
 
ChuckMK23 said:
OH-58 had a slightly larger main rotor than the TH-57 and Bell 206B...but otherwise the same.
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Our 58Cs have noticeably taller skids that our 57Bs too. I also know the HV diagram is a bit differen, but otherwise haven't itemized the variations.
 
IKE said:
Our 58Cs have noticeably taller skids that our 57Bs too. I also know the HV diagram is a bit differen, but otherwise haven't itemized the variations.
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I think skid height was a variable modification when the windscreen glass went from flat to bug eye and the /S (Stinger missile) was added to some 58Cs. Although I’m not sure why, some got higher skids and others didn’t.
 
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