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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?

number9 said:
A very, very, very good question
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It's not a good question at all.

"You get paid to think." -Every submarine officer to their crew.

In retrospect, it's extremely easy to see the inconsistencies and contradictions in the policies.

The majority of SVMs who took the vaccine had the attitude of "well, it's not worth risking my paycheck, what's one more jab." In other words, cowardice. I include myself in that group.

There are some percentage of people who objected in order to get a quick way out of the Navy. But the people who objected and want to return had actual moral courage, and we shouldn't criticize them for that.

Brett has drank the kool-aid, so he can't fathom why the NPIs put out in 2020-2021 were pants-on-head retarded to anyone with an ounce of critical thought.

Of note, not a single person who refused to fight the BHR fire went to jail. That pisses off a lot of Marines.
 
number9 said:
And I'm sure that had nothing to do with partisan politics!
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Not relevant. We're an apartisan organization, remember?

Servicemembers were being pressured into taking a non-FDA approved vaccine in order to restore their normal liberties. A few people refused, and fast forward to today and a lot of lawyers have had the opportunity to weigh in on the issue.

I can guaran-damn-tee you that it doesn't matter which party was in office... they'd have the same policy because the alternative is that the federal government would owe a lot of money to a lot of people. We already played this game with anthrax.
 
Spekkio said:
Not relevant. We're an apartisan organization, remember?

Servicemembers were being pressured into taking a non-FDA approved vaccine in order to restore their normal liberties. A few people refused, and fast forward to today and a lot of lawyers have had the opportunity to weigh in on the issue.

I can guaran-damn-tee you that it doesn't matter which party was in office... they'd have the same policy because the alternative is that the federal government would owe a lot of money to a lot of people. We already played this game with anthrax.
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You are so close to getting it.
 
number9 said:
You are so close to getting it.
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You're so far from understanding what I am saying.

The federal government had to pay out millions of dollars for its anthrax policy before the vaccine went through the actual proper channels to get approved. Drop in the bucket relative to total budget, but lots of egg on the face in the PR realm.

Of note, I've personally received the anthrax vaccine... but I could have denied it with no repercussions other than an annoyed detailer.
 
Spekkio said:
You're so far from understanding what I am saying.

The federal government had to pay out millions of dollars for its anthrax policy before the vaccine went through the actual proper channels to get approved. Drop in the bucket relative to total budget, but lots of egg on the face in the PR realm.

Of note, I've personally received the anthrax vaccine... but I could have denied it with no repercussions other than an annoyed detailer.
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So you're saying that it's not lawful for the military to order us as service members to take and receive a non-approved vaccine?

I would argue in military service your life is not your own to make those decisions. You do not have agency when you are in uniformed service. And your government owns the risk if anything goes upside down.
 
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