I’m assuming that if any current PROREC Y runs into an issue then an alternate could take that slot. Def didn’t know that was a thing till now. I’m also shocked they canceled all the boards after only taking 26 plus BDCPI was put as an alternate. My recruiter had never heard of that before. Does anyone know anything about that?
You're god damn right. They didn't submit a waiver in time for me and my name didn't make it to the board, even though i nagged the recruiter to send it in. It's incompetence and carelessness to the highest degree.I'lll add something here in case other civilians apply in the future and go through this thread. I had to drag my recruiter out of bed in the morning and pester him to do even the most basic parts of his job. One time I drove up to the recruiting station and waited outside the door until he showed up at 3:00 in the afternoon. We were getting close to the board deadline and some paperwork wasn't in and he was nowhere to be found. I had to call the regional command in Colorado and offer to drive five hours up there to drop it off in person. Honestly pretty pathetic level of incompetency. I say all this as a warning for future applicants to really stay on top of the process
It depends on how they decide to do it as I have seen a few variations.I was put as an alternate. My recruiter had never heard of that before. Does anyone know anything about that?
Is this DNR UNTIL SECURITY CLEARANCE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED a new thing? I searched here, reddit, and google and though there's plenty of discussions of DNRs, this appears to be the very first time DNRs with that addendum have been discussed online. Genuinely stumped by it and awaiting clarification from my ORPROREC-Y 36
PROREC-A 21
PROREC-N 61
PROREC- DO NOT RETURN UNTIL SECURITY CLEARANCE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED 17
PROREC-Y BDCP 5
If anyone wants a little information on this. I handled clearances for Army personnel as a security manager for 6 years, and the Navy uses the same systems, DISS and DCSA as the adjudicators. No matter what the issue is, the key is transparency.Fell into the bucket of "DNR UNTIL SEC CLEARANCE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED." Anyone know the process for appealing/resolving this and reapplying? I imagine it varies based on the clearance issue--mine is likely not financial/personal, but instead related to non-citizen family (inquired with OR for more details and awaiting those). @exNavyOffRec, ever heard of someone actually resolving those and ending up in INTEL or another TS/SCI position?
And congrats again to all those who got the Y! Better luck next time (or in future endeavors) to the rest of us.
While many things are similar service to service there are some differences, I know as I was the security manager for my department for several years. In many cases it depends on what the person will be doing in the USN. In several of these cases with AD the Command Security Manager was surprised.If anyone wants a little information on this. I handled clearances for Army personnel as a security manager for 6 years, and the Navy uses the same systems, DISS and DCSA as the adjudicators. No matter what the issue is, the key is transparency.
For finances, anything in collections totaling more than $10,000 (including charge‑offs) is a red flag, for first time clearance filling out and SF86 anything in collections or delinquent will be a problem. Normal debt that’s paid on time isn’t a problem.
For foreign contacts or relationships, it depends heavily on the country, but you’ll need a personal statement/proof showing you have no financial or political ties and that your allegiance is to the U.S.
BLUF: Regardless of the clearance issue under the 13 adjudicating guidelines, if you have a red flag, own it. Show how you addressed it, what you learned, how you’ve mitigated it, and why it can’t be used against you. If you can demonstrate those points, you’ll maintain or obtain a clearance almost every time including TS/SCI.
Yea initially I was PROREC-Y for MCWO back in 2024 but due to clearance issues, I couldn't get my TS/SCI at the time (one of my immediate family members wasn't a citizen), but since then everything resolved and i'm happy to be going to OCS (hopefully smooth sailing this time) but this time as a CWO!If anyone wants a little information on this. I handled clearances for Army personnel as a security manager for 6 years, and the Navy uses the same systems, DISS and DCSA as the adjudicators. No matter what the issue is, the key is transparency.
For finances, anything in collections totaling more than $10,000 (including charge‑offs) is a red flag, for first time clearance filling out and SF86 anything in collections or delinquent will be a problem. Normal debt that’s paid on time isn’t a problem.
For foreign contacts or relationships, it depends heavily on the country, but you’ll need a personal statement/proof showing you have no financial or political ties and that your allegiance is to the U.S.
BLUF: Regardless of the clearance issue under the 13 adjudicating guidelines, if you have a red flag, own it. Show how you addressed it, what you learned, how you’ve mitigated it, and why it can’t be used against you. If you can demonstrate those points, you’ll maintain or obtain a clearance almost every time including TS/SCI.
Just got off phone with OR. Tacking onto this for future applicants: I have a green card holding parent with whom I have regular contact, and my OR clarified that this was the most likely reason for my "DNR until clearance issue resolved." Even though the country in question is historically a close ally/very low risk, my OR was clear that my parent passing away is the "resolution" to the DNR. If you're someone in a similar boat, short of your parent/close relative passing away, it's unlikely that you'll be able to land a position in INTEL.Yea initially I was PROREC-Y for MCWO back in 2024 but due to clearance issues, I couldn't get my TS/SCI at the time (one of my immediate family members wasn't a citizen), but since then everything resolved and i'm happy to be going to OCS (hopefully smooth sailing this time) but this time as a CWO!
Not an IWC applicant - just lurking around. The first time I went to my OR, I was told that I wouldn't be able to get TS because I have immediate family who are still Chinese citizen/green card holders. Hopefully I can get Secret for SupplyJust got off phone with OR. Tacking onto this for future applicants: I have a green card holding parent with whom I have regular contact, and my OR clarified that this was the most likely reason for my "DNR until clearance issue resolved." Even though the country in question is historically a close ally/very low risk, my OR was clear that my parent passing away is the "resolution" to the DNR. If you're someone in a similar boat, short of your parent/close relative passing away, it's unlikely that you'll be able to land a position in INTEL.
He added that even though this was all apparent upon initial screening/on my SF-86, I wasn't disqualified from the start because that initial screening isn't community specific, so be wary: don't take passing the initial screening as any indication that you'll get by the more rigorous requirements of the IWC.