China has also made inroads in a lot of other places, should we take them over too?
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Greenland
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The Danes and European allies are starting to think so. Even then, to even suggest it is gravely insulting and extremely unpopular with them, likely hardening their position.
No one thinks he’s going to do a lot of things, until he does.
Alvin Holsey has entered the chat.
Interesting to visit Danish newspapers, letting Google translate them if you use Chrome.
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How much for that is for us and how much is to show the “we must resist” crowd of their political ecosystem that they are doing something. Germany made a big to do about sending 15 people. Some of the other NATO deployments are single digit numbers of personnel.
Seriously, does it actually look like they are doing any effective means of defense building and do we look like we are getting ready to execute a forcible takeover? What positioning of critical operational assets is going on? Who is recommending a timetable for this while simultaneously not removing all that prepo hardware in Europe we would lose simply because it would be confiscated as a reaction.
Put on your rational thought process and red team the theory we are going to simply take Greenland by force. It’s a stupid narrative.
Why do you think we spend so much effort on Africom?
China has a multi billion dollar incentive financially to secure the 2 northern Arctic sea routes, and more importantly a serious long term bypass strategy of the isolation efforts we would use against them in a fight.
The critics simply reducing Trump’s moves on Greenland (or Venezuela for that matter) as some new flavor of colonial imperialism is ignoring reality of what our big Geopolitical opponent is/has/and will continue to be doing.
And again, we don’t need to own Greenland to protect our interests there.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
We do?
Do you think the CIA has been given the task to muck with things there?
The point isn't to emplace a force capable of repelling a US attack. The point is to raise the stakes, and costs, of carrying out an attack. This has a deterrent effect. This is not a novel strategy.
Yeah a reminder for all the geopolitical strategists on the board here, this was Trump admin 1.0 and the reporting that was occurring during it https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/02/politics/donald-trump-north-korea-nuclear
Again, what credible demonstration have you seen to suddenly think we are abandoning everything in a play for Greenland? The same thread we are currently conversing in I had to show math to all the smart people about the degree of ground forces we have positioned in addition to a permanent basing to Europe on the eastern flank. But sure, we’re gonna walk out of NATO any day now.
There is nothing real about sitting here thinking we are either gonna strike NATO (since we literally have aircraft deployed there now from NORAD) nor is anybody with any serious understanding looking at the literal dozens of NATO troops deployed to exercise thinking that there is a real fight being resisted. If you seriously believe that, where is the JFE going to happen? Copenhagen proper or Greenlands 3 major airports?
We live in an era of populism and rhetoric amplification via technology that is global, not simply our politics and it’s played out in social media spaces across not only our own but our allies nationalist/populist narrative messaging . To quote Steven Kotkin, welcome to the “WWF era” of political coverage.
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Nothing yet, but it would be foolish for the European powers to ignore the threat. Maduro responded with musical performances and mocking Trump’s dancing style. That didn’t turn out well for him. Nobody thought we would have been extracting the Venezuelan head of state two months ago either.
Again, do you think he has directed covert influence actions against them?
You are talking rationality, but this is not rational…
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Which part of texting other world leaders makes you think he isn't serious about Greenland?
I get that Trump often talks in hyperbole, but when he gets specific he is serious. He has gotten very specific.
The best outcome is that European posturing makes him back off. He'll then change his opinion and claim it was his idea all along.
Just like when Congress overrode his veto of the defense appropriations act because he wanted to decommission two carriers in his first term.
US puts 1,500 crack arctic airborne troops on standby as Greenland - US News - News - Daily Express US
The Pentagon has put 1,500 soldiers on high alert, sparking whispers of deeper motives beyond the official narrative
Oddly timed and geographically suspect. Continue posturing for cheeto jesus.