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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?
- Thread starter Randy Daytona
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What is the proper call on the 1MC with the bells?
President arriving... Commander In Chief arriving... United States of America arriving...
Has to be an in the know salt out there somewhere.
I think every President should have to ride in the back of a student CQ
GroundPounder
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Not an Old Salt ( but old ) but I have a good memory.
8 bells and " United States, arriving "
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
We still have cultural vestiges from American approach toward military service...
The enlisted force is your blue-collar typical American who joins the military for a short stint out of patriotism or because he was conscripted, so they get more lee-way in expressing their political beliefs. Meanwhile, the officer corps still has vestiges of being largely comprised of the upper class of Americans and therefore is the extension of political leadership. You also still see this dynamic displayed in popular media anytime an officer isn't the hero of the story (and sometimes when he is; every officer other than CPT Winters in Band of Brothers was apparently incompetent or mildly insane).
The lines are more blurred today but the underlying tone survives.
Notwithstanding the fact that the UCMJ distinguishes between what the two groups can and cannot do (Enlisted servicemembers can bitch about political leadership in the smoke pit. Officers cannot)...
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
If the military 'loses' the trust of Democrat voters, they will have lost the support of a large voting bloc regardless of whoever is in power. We have enjoyed immense public good-will and bi-partisan support over the last 25 years or so.
The Democrat platform already tends to lean toward cutting military spending; giving them a rallying cry by deploying US troops in ways that they perceive to be unscrupulous and then portraying the military as a loyal enforcer for the GOP will not have good outcomes for people wearing a uniform, regardless of their individual political affiliations.
If we ruin our reputation by the end of Trump's term it will take generations or another major conflict to repair. We are at risk of being perceived like the post-Vietnam military, especially because the media goes full-retard when reporting anything on Trump to get clicks and the 'blind loyalty' or 'project 2025' narrative sells.
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Oh, FFS. If you're drawing some kind of equivalency here, you've been radicalized.
Just commenting on "discomfort" and time to repair "damage."
Nothing going on now is new. We've all been through this in one form or another for decades.
The military has always been, and will always be part of a President's political clout, be it in support or distain of the armed forces.
If you think I've been radicalized (not sure by whom you mean), than you are more of an idiot than you seem to wish to portray yourself as.
I stand on the side of the Military and an Oath we all swore... "... to defend the Constitution..."
Or maybe that doesn't mean as much to the millennial military.
Let the politicians get their photo ops (as they all do). It really should mean little in the big picture.
Time to turn off the Fox-machine pee-paw, and head off to bed. It's amazing that through all these posts, that you still don't get it.
I think several people here need to take a few deep breaths.
For what it's worth: I am a millennial, and I served my country- and the Constitution- faithfully for 24 years. Our political trajectory gives me great pause, from the dual standpoints of Constitutional rigor and basic human decency. In my opinion, our national leadership are failing at both. Ego and emotional satisfaction are their guiding stars.
Generational differences are not the problem. Using them as a wedge to drive people apart very well could be though.
For what it's worth: I am a millennial, and I served my country- and the Constitution- faithfully for 24 years. Our political trajectory gives me great pause, from the dual standpoints of Constitutional rigor and basic human decency. In my opinion, our national leadership are failing at both. Ego and emotional satisfaction are their guiding stars.
Generational differences are not the problem. Using them as a wedge to drive people apart very well could be though.
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It's cute that you think I'm a millennial... and you can fuck all the way off with the sanctimony. In case you hadn't figured it out, the millennials are ones who have spent the last 25 years fighting America's wars while you sat on your ass drinking cheap beer at the VFW. By all means, continue to beclown yourself by excusing the inexcusable. I'll be here to call you out every singe time.
Get what? Please explain.
Please explain, specifics.
You're high and mighty bullshit gets old.
Bret's right , F anyone else's thoughts or opinions.
You know not my deployment history, and it's none of your business.
As to the rest of your dribble, I've never even been inside of a VFW.
Unfortunately, this is not a recent issue.
Which basically is what I've been trying to say.
Perhaps I'm not clearly understood, as I do not use acronyms or phrases like "pee-paw."
I just don't understand how several people here don't seem to understand that there are some of us who look at this much more simply, and less politically. May not make me right, but it doesn't by default make me wrong.
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A parade is a parade, and as wasteful as one may be, sure, go for it, have a parade. This was not that. If you cant listen to the words (here and Quantico) and realize that it was nothing if not a poltiical/partisan act, then yes, you are, by default, wrong. To the extent you find a clip of someone from team blue doing something similar, i'll tell you that's wrong as well. You're either choosing to be obtuse, or really dont understand the laws, norms, and customs that informed your commission. I'm hoping for the former and not the later. To the extent our ranks are filled with the later, no amount of ships (350 or otherwise) will much matter.