My Latest Purchase (or just pictures of your current guns)

[sevenhelmet]

There are reports of issues with military models too.

Documents detail U.S. soldiers shot by their own Sig Sauer guns; military says no reason for concern

On military bases from Virginia to the Middle East, pistols made by NH-based Sig Sauer have unintentionally fired, seriously wounding soldiers in some instances.

www.nhpr.org

Article includes the individual FOIAd writeups.
Some still sound more like NDs than a real malfunction.

I think the manual safety is a big mitigating factor for sure, because some of the civilian or LE reported incidents sound like a thing where the safety could have helped prevent if engaged.

That said, I agree that comparatively the extremely low volume of incidents on the military side considering the number in circulation daily in Cond 1 says something. That said, there are also some slight differences between the mil M17/18 and the commercial “M17/18” as well. It’s noticeable if you operate them side by side (though not exactly visible)

Did the military models get retrofitted with the “Sig voluntary upgrade” parts?

 

[BigRed389]

Did the military models get retrofitted with the “Sig voluntary upgrade” parts?

Other way around. Civilian model upgrade was based on the changes M17 made during trials to fix the issue.
It’s one of the reasons were biased up front to be pissed at SIG, like…why would a drop safe issue not be a mandatory recall?

But it was one of the things that obfuscates the current cloud over SIG - for a long time they could just either say get a proper fitting holster or get the voluntary upgrade.

 

[Gatordev]

I kind of feel like it's a betrayal since the RIS II design has been such a cornerstone of GWOT and absolutely bullet-proof. But I guess it's time...

 

[ChuckMK23]

I kind of feel like it's a betrayal since the RIS II design has been such a cornerstone of GWOT and absolutely bullet-proof. But I guess it's time...

So long cheese grater!

Which handguard is the new one?

 

[Gatordev]

Which handguard is the new one?

The still clone-correct one...MK16.

I still prefer the ability to attach parts with much smaller increments like you can on a Pic rail instead of the "it's either here or...here" on a MLok. But between the slight weight savings and the slightly reduced circumference to help with gripping the ATPIAL, I figured it was time.

I'm still not sure what I'm going to do with the button setup, but first things first.

 

[Gatordev]

And done...

Now I just need to zero everything...again.

 

[ChuckMK23]

And done...

Now I just need to zero everything...again.

2 stamp gun!

 

[BigRed389]

2 stamp gun!

3 stamp if those are 2 different suppressors between the pics.

 

[Gatordev]

3 stamp if those are 2 different suppressors between the pics.

Just seeing if anyone was paying attention.

 

[ChuckMK23]

Just seeing if anyone was paying attention.

Gator do you think it’s reasonable to believe that SBR and silencers will soon be removed from the scope of the NFA? Or is this just wishful thinking - and removal of the tax stamp for new silencers and SBRs was simply throwing a bone to a certain voting group?

 

[Gatordev]

The tax stamp wasn't removed, only the tax due.

I have no idea, but the process is going to take a long time, either way. It would be nice if it happened, but the pessimist in me doubts it will be allowed to go through before 2028, and after that I wouldn't be surprised if it loses a lot of momentum within government (because why should they care?).