Getting sidetracked and in need of some form of direction

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

I just went through your post history…

I didn’t know you previously applied, was selected, attended OCS and then quit. Life has opportunities, with many of them not offering second chances. The navy might be one of those.

There have been some OCS drop outs who applied some time later and we’re given a second chance, though I feel those circumstances were on a case by case basis and those applicants had to have stellar applicants, like what @exNavyOffRec has said, had amazing ASTB scores (scores in the 8s or better).

I get the whole “I’m a different person now” argument but that doesn’t waive life/work opportunities that don’t offer second chances.

 

[davidc1220]

I just went through your post history…

I didn’t know you previously applied, was selected, attended OCS and then quit. Life has opportunities, with many of them not offering second chances. The navy might be one of those.

There have been some OCS drop outs who applied some time later and we’re given a second chance, though I feel those circumstances were on a case by case basis and those applicants had to have stellar applicants, like what @exNavyOffRec has said, had amazing ASTB scores (scores in the 8s or better).

I get the whole “I’m a different person now” argument but that doesn’t waive life/work opportunities that don’t offer second chances.

I never quit OCS, I Was dropped by the command from the Marines OCS on Week 9 out of 10, 12 days exactly before graduation for failing two categories by a point. That was 6 years ago back in 2017. I'm not even close to the same person from then, so yes im a completely different person. Should I have gone, no, but I can't change the past and honestly that experience taught me alot about myself and how to learn to fail. But times are different and I've had my fair share of life experiences and growing up since then.
Right now, my main goal is to get up there somehow with any branch in any kind of aircraft. I'm trying to find whatever avenue I can get into and honestly I want to make sure I don't make the same mistake of rushing this process again and falling into that same trap from 6 years ago.

 

[davidc1220]

I'm honestly going off of if it's meant to be it'll happen, but right now that I still have control of it, I'm giving it my all to get after it

 

[Ed014]

Some of you may have recognized my name and know I've been here a while.

I recently got rejected by the May board for the Navy and now I'm wondering what to do. I dont know whether to try somewhere else or to try again for the Navy for both SNA and NFO or just SNA.

The Air Force has been impossible to get a hold of over here so I have been able to speak to anyone about my options there. The Army has pointed towards the WOFT program. Unfortunately I've exhausted my efforts with the Marines. Waiting for the National Guard to open up their selection window.

It has gotten to the point where I will fly anything for anyone who will take me

My big thing is I'm afraid of wasting my time and losing precious time since I'm not getting any younger and honestly I'm ready to start this life and go on with my career.

Some of you may have been in this predicament. What did you do? Did it ever feel like the process was getting longer/ more difficult?

I got rejected May 2021 board and reapplied a year later. The processes definitely felt longer / difficult. So much I completely gave up at some point and didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I never planned on applying a year later. It just turned out that way. I wanted to reapply as soon as possible. I missed boards thinking I was on them because my recruiter said I was on them but I would find out I wasn't from the at board list. It was a tough journey after being rejected but I truly believe it was something I needed to go through to appreciate this opportunity even more. You're on the right track on looking at other opportunities but my two cents would be just reapply to the earliest board you can so that you have that in the background while looking for other opportunities or look into retaking the ASTB if you have any attempts left. Good luck to you bro! Your time will come.

 

[Hair Warrior]

I Was dropped by the command from the Marines OCS on Week 9 out of 10, 12 days exactly before graduation for failing two categories by a point.

This fact sort of changes the advice people here would give you.

If the Army WOFT is giving you a shot, if I were you I would close the laptop, drive over to the Army recruiter today, and start the process. The Navy and Marines do not currently have flying warrants in manned aircraft. I can’t speak to your chances at regaining entry to an OCS program but it seems like maybe an uphill climb for you.

USANG/USAFR might work but if they want to see a PPL (per others stating so) then obviously that elongates your timelines, imposes out of pocket costs, and adds complexity to your success chances.

 

[croakerfish]

Yah those guys are kinda like the same thing as HSC for the Navy, except they can crash their helicopters and get away with it.

I heard that the dude who snapped the tailwheel off a Sierra in NYC was accepted into the SOAR so you may be right.

 

[Hair Warrior]

I heard that the dude who snapped the tailwheel off a Sierra in NYC was accepted into the SOAR so you may be right.

I started reading that sentence and thought you were gonna say Abbottabad.

 

[wink]

I never quit OCS, I Was dropped by the command from the Marines OCS on Week 9 out of 10, 12 days exactly before graduation for failing two categories by a point. That was 6 years ago back in 2017.

Now, I was an officer programs recruiter back when strippers could still be found in the occasional O Club, so consider the vintage of the info. But in my day the CRUITMAN said something to the affect that anyone who had been dropped from any commission source was ineligible for Navy OCS. I am certain because I had a couple cases I had to reject for that reason. I don't recall if it said disenrolled or attrited or DORed. Going NPQ was not disqualifying from reapplication. Had one of those cases too. She got back into AOCS. Of course, the specific wording used in your disenrollment will matter. But maybe you clear that up before using valuable time on a reapplication to Navy OCS because a recruiter didn't know his shit and failed to counsel you on this.

 

[croakerfish]

Now, I was an officer programs recruiter back when strippers could still be found in the occasional O Club, so consider the vintage of the info. But in my day the CRUITMAN said something to the affect that anyone who had been dropped from any commission source was ineligible for Navy OCS. I am certain because I had a couple cases I had to reject for that reason. I don't recall if it said disenrolled or attrited or DORed. Going NPQ was not disqualifying from reapplication. Had one of those cases too. She got back into AOCS. Of course, the specific wording used in your disenrollment will matter. But maybe you clear that up before using valuable time on a reapplication to Navy OCS because a recruiter didn't know his shit and failed to counsel you on this.

I have a former squadronmate who was dropped from Marine OCS and was subsequently selected for Navy OCS.

 

[Griz882]

I strongly recommend the Army. The Air Guard path is going to take too long for your age and you may not get any traction from the Navy at this point. The Army is looking for pilots now.

 

[Griz882]

I started reading that sentence and thought you were gonna say Abbottabad.

It ain’t the accident that matters….it’s the recovery!

 

[davidc1220]

I got rejected May 2021 board and reapplied a year later. The processes definitely felt longer / difficult. So much I completely gave up at some point and didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I never planned on applying a year later. It just turned out that way. I wanted to reapply as soon as possible. I missed boards thinking I was on them because my recruiter said I was on them but I would find out I wasn't from the at board list. It was a tough journey after being rejected but I truly believe it was something I needed to go through to appreciate this opportunity even more. You're on the right track on looking at other opportunities but my two cents would be just reapply to the earliest board you can so that you have that in the background while looking for other opportunities or look into retaking the ASTB if you have any attempts left. Good luck to you bro! Your time will come.

Yeah, honestly it was my first time applying to the Navy, so now that I'm familiar with the process, it actually helped me refamiliarize myself with the whole officer board process again. Hopefully you get in too soon

 

[davidc1220]

This fact sort of changes the advice people here would give you.

If the Army WOFT is giving you a shot, if I were you I would close the laptop, drive over to the Army recruiter today, and start the process. The Navy and Marines do not currently have flying warrants in manned aircraft. I can’t speak to your chances at regaining entry to an OCS program but it seems like maybe an uphill climb for you.

USANG/USAFR might work but if they want to see a PPL (per others stating so) then obviously that elongates your timelines, imposes out of pocket costs, and adds complexity to your success chances.

I've spoken with them and I told them about what happened when I was dropped. They said it wasn't a big deal and that yes the question would come up in the boards but it would allow me to explain myself as to what happened

 

[davidc1220]

Now, I was an officer programs recruiter back when strippers could still be found in the occasional O Club, so consider the vintage of the info. But in my day the CRUITMAN said something to the affect that anyone who had been dropped from any commission source was ineligible for Navy OCS. I am certain because I had a couple cases I had to reject for that reason. I don't recall if it said disenrolled or attrited or DORed. Going NPQ was not disqualifying from reapplication. Had one of those cases too. She got back into AOCS. Of course, the specific wording used in your disenrollment will matter. But maybe you clear that up before using valuable time on a reapplication to Navy OCS because a recruiter didn't know his shit and failed to counsel you on this.

I know a DOR is pretty much shot in the foot in terms of coming back into any branch, how I was given a drop "with an option to reapply" rather than a "permanent disenrollment". I tried for about 3-4 years to get back into the Marines but they never took me back even with a good. I asked my recruiter at the beginning of the whole process and told him I didn't want to waste my time if it couldn't happen and he said everything was fine and to keep everything going for the process

 

[davidc1220]

I have a former squadronmate who was dropped from Marine OCS and was subsequently selected for Navy OCS.

This is what I'm trying to accomplish with any branch, I figured the Navy would work because I already had an ASTB qualifying score(which I've been told not to mess with since I only have 1 attempt) and a qualifying medical