This is true, but it doesn't mean they (the NOSC people) don't get butt hurt about it
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This is true, but it doesn't mean they (the NOSC people) don't get butt hurt about it
I think they sometimes forget what their mission is…
It's also about capability. They don't always have the right type of talent in the right place, for many different reasons. Several years ago, the Jax NOSC had an AD1 working in Ops (or whatever the pay/drills/travel processing place is called now). He was a phenominal AD1 and could get a -60 flying both fast and smooth, but administrative paperwork skills probably wasn't why the Navy made him an AD.
I’ll disagree with you there. Outside of medical, the entirety of the NOSC is admin. That’s the job they signed up for. They agree to that deal when they go FTS and get stability of location/life while remaining eligible for an active duty retirement. If they want to perform their rate, they should go on active duty or go SELRES.
The easiest way is to drill like a traditional reservist your full 48 drills and 12 days of AT a year, then you would have no problems. But that is not how it is done nowadays in the 'brave new world' of flex drilling though. So my recommendation would be to spread the wealth doing some drills and AT throughout the year if you can, but also look to front load both years so you knock out your minimum requirements earlier in the year than later and not have to worry about it as the year went on.
I always made sure I was well aware of where I was for both my years with the difference between the two being the summer, I commissioned in May as an ROTC guy, so I always tried to meet the minimum for both by my years by my anniversary date in May and whatever I did over the summer was extra. My unit usually had quite a few exercises and was pretty flexible on drills so that was usually pretty easy to do, but plans often changed in the reserves so I would always have a back-up plan or two to make sure I was good by summer because by then it was often too late to make up for lost time.
The only time I got bit in the ass was the year after I came home from a MOB and signed up for a single AT later in the summer that subsequently fell though late leaving me with no AT for the year, resulting in a 'bad year' with the reserves though the only thing that happened was I got a nasty gram from the NOSC. I still had enough points for both years to be good otherwise, so no harm no foul in the end.
BTW, one big bennie as a GS is you get 120 hours of paid military leave as a drilling reservist in addition to your regular and sick leaves. Myself and a few other GS's were pretty constant fixtures at most of my unit's exercises (~3 to 6 a year) along with some of the airline pilots because we could be there while most of the others who were government contractors or had real jobs usually only came to one or two per year. That usually translated to an extra $10-20k a year on top of what I would have gotten had I done just the minimum and without the GS military leave.
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I think you have a misunderstanding of FTS enlisted recruitment of production rates. They're brought in just like AC, but under a different component, and then go to hardware units. Just like the AC rates. They're not like FTS/TAR officer accessions until they put khaki on, and even then, they may stay in their rating field until they start putting stars on the anchors.
Are there production rates at NOSCs? Yes, of course, but there's usually a reason they're there. In this AD1's case, his wife was an EFM and the way he could stay where his support group was located was to go over to the NOSC (I can't remember why he didn't/couldn't go over to VR). I understand your point about accepting the orders to stay "local," but that doesn't mean it's the best use of the individual's skill and goes back to my point. This AD1 was very smart, and I'm sure he settled into the job, but that takes time, no matter the rate, and the result is the same...not knowing "the system" as well as a senior PS or YN.
PS and YN type duties make up about 70% of what a NOSC is supposed to do. 20% is HM. 10% everything else.
This is part of why the NIFRs are getting divorced from the NOSCs - CNIFR thinks the IWC can do it more efficiently ourselves, without the NOSC (aside from medical).
This is part of why the NIFRs are getting divorced from the NOSCs - CNIFR thinks the IWC can do it more efficiently ourselves, without the NOSC (aside from medical).
SELRES_AMDO
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Also be careful with this.
The reserve is cracking down hard on VA disability. I had a few sailors affiliate for a year, do their first PHA where they must disclose their VA disability rating and get sent straight to MRR and shown the door and not have the opportunity to get to retirement.
We can thank all the malingerers who took Uncle Sam's money for drill and then said they couldn't deploy when they were tagged for MOB. It was a huge problem a few years ago and the Navy (rightfully) got pretty pissed about it.
Right when all the IA non-vol mobs went away.
So how do you separate from the active component without getting a VA rating? Should I intentionally hide my injuries and stuff? I know quite a few vets who had that bite them in the ass later in life.
FormerRecruitingGuru
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I believe you have to file for the VA claim on your own. It’s not automatic.
Honestly, I don't know if anyone can answer that question unless you know a reserve doc that handles MRR paperwork who you can bribe with beer or otherwise trust to keep shit on the down-low. But yeah, the VA claim is something you have to ask for, and that's why I haven't touched them with a 10-foot pole yet. And I've probably got some metaphorical bumps and bruises I'll get fucked for later because of this.
The other gate to keep in mind is 15 good years. As a med-up SELRES, you need 20 good years to retire. But if you go med down, go through an MRR, and they recommend separation, you can put in for retirement as long as you have 15 good years. One of my Sailors had to do this at 17 years due to a bad back. Which was fucking stupid because he was an AC, and in his civilian job he was an FAA air traffic controller manager. He got tagged for MOB but couldn't meet CENTCOM theater entry requirements with his bad back. Point is, though, he got his pension in the end.
I'd also submit that it isn't all about IA mobs at this point anyway. I believe NRC (and CNAFR) are making a big push for ensuring our folks are ready to backfill in a meaningful way for any sort of MCO that might rear its head. Need to be deployable in that case too.
Tracking. Seen it called RER and other names. I’m highly skeptical that a real-world execution would match the on-paper concept.