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DanMa1156

Is it baseball season yet?
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With CV NATOPS requirements and “last tactical mile” LOG requirements, CSGs and CVWs are also recognizing how many more Sierras they need for daily business. How many CSGs have been willing to try workups at a reduced Sierra footprint before losing them? Not many.
While I agree with you in principle, I think this is about to change rapidly.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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I’m not at all surprised a 7th Fleet CSG wanted more organic ASW and ELINT. As I’ve said before, when HSC couldn’t decide if it wanted to lazily collect per diem in Bahrain or cosplay SOAR, HSM Jody-ed them and slid into the DMs of the CSG and Flags.

Good luck with that one, after ~25 years of neglect.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
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The main rotor on an AH-6 is 8m in diameter.. the tail rotor on a CH-53 is 6.1m :eek:
That’s one reason why there are H-6s. So the snake-eating types can get plunked into or supported in more tight spaces when the occasion calls for it.
 

number9

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That’s one reason why there are H-6s. So the snake-eating types can get plunked into or supported in more tight spaces when the occasion calls for it.
Oh, for sure. I thought I read somewhere once that the H-6 main rotor was smaller than a big helo's tail rotor, but I can't seem to confirm that. This is as close as I could get dimensionally
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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I still prefer LOACH over Little Bird. SW Chapter of the AAHF just got an airworthy OH-6A donated to us. It was civ registered Hughes 369 after retired from the Army. Landed at a local helicopter service center 10 years ago and never flew again. The service center took off the blades and stored them properly along with some other minor preservation. The proprietor of the service center talked the owner, who obviously had lost interest, into donating it to us. It will be be inspected, annualed, have all the service bulletins brought up to date and painted in it's old glory as a Vietnam era LOACH. This will be our first flying OH-6. We already have an awesome restored static OH-6 on a trailer. The current A/MH-6's are manufactured right across the airport from us. My first flying gig in law enforcement was in an OH-6. Good times.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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I still prefer LOACH over Little Bird. SW Chapter of the AAHF just got an airworthy OH-6A donated to us. It was civ registered Hughes 369 after retired from the Army. Landed at a local helicopter service center 10 years ago and never flew again. The service center took off the blades and stored them properly along with some other minor preservation. The proprietor of the service center talked the owner, who obviously had lost interest, into donating it to us. It will be be inspected, annualed, have all the service bulletins brought up to date and painted in it's old glory as a Vietnam era LOACH. This will be our first flying OH-6. We already have an awesome restored static OH-6 on a trailer. The current A/MH-6's are manufactured right across the airport from us. My first flying gig in law enforcement was in an OH-6. Good times.
My puny few hours in a 369 (former OH-6) were just great. What a fun helicopter to fly!
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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Something for those with true helicopter knowledges. The OH-6 sits the aircraft commander in the right seat, common for Helicopters, but always for the US military. The MD products, successors of the Hughes 396/500 etc, places the AC in the left seat. When did that start, Hughes, McDonnell? Was the civ Hughes 396 piloted from the left seat or right. Is that a quick ID for an OH-6, right seat, vs the -396?
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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Something for those with true helicopter knowledges. The OH-6 sits the aircraft commander in the right seat, common for Helicopters, but always for the US military. The MD products, successors of the Hughes 396/500 etc, places the AC in the left seat. When did that start, Hughes, McDonnell? Was the civ Hughes 396 piloted from the left seat or right. Is that a quick ID for an OH-6, right seat, vs the -396?
My understanding is that the left seat variant was for the “executive” 396 model (that came after the OH-6) with seating for 3 in the front (like my Enstrom). Most ordinary 369’s can be flown from either seat as long as the left collective has the starter STC on it. All of the longline and wire guys fly from the right. The old OH-23 (Hiller) was flown from the center with a observer/gunner on each side! They were flying in Vietnam well into 1968.
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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The old OH-23 (Hiller) was flown from the center with a observer/gunner on each side! They were flying in Vietnam well into 1968.
What!! I have a buddy with a newly restored H-23 in Army livery. What sort of armament? Are we talking M-14, M-60? I am totally calling my bud. We are getting some guns and I will NFO the shit out of it. ??
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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What!! I have a buddy with a newly restored H-23 in Army livery. What sort of armament? Are we talking M-14, M-60? I am totally calling my bud. We are getting some guns and I will NFO the shit out of it. ??
Two types. One carried a forward-firing M-60 mounted on each skid and others had the typical scout in the seat. I’ll try to get some images and you can get to gunning!
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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Here you go…guns mounted. (Shown here on a Sioux instead of a Raven - but the same system).

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And guns “on the go”. I see you doing this @wink…the ultimate NFO move!

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Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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@wink I couldn’t get the page to download yesterday, but here is a great description of a “light armed” scout OH-23G Raven…

“When I got to the Cav the 23's had an m-60 fixed on the left skid, crew chief in the right door with an M60 and an enlisted observer in the left door with an M79. Then grenades, smoke and willy peat grenades hanging all over the place. God help us if we lost an engine the first 30 mins of flight (slightly overloaded). We weren’t the fastest and I suppose not very impressive but it seemed, at least to me, a very effective application overall.”

You buddy can check out this site for inspiration!

 
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